Everything related to Agnarr!

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Bruno [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We'll see soon enough. Then we can revisit our posts and see who was right.

So PoP had the most in depth raid lore, quests, tradeskills, progression arc and content overall. But because they have a lot of QoL updates and DPS improvements/Heroics the content unfortunately falls over to most everyone.

Due to this many Phinigel raiders will be staying on Phinigel to experience more difficult / in depth raid scripts from GoD-TBS.

I think SoF will be where a large chunk of people fall off. Maybe PoR cause most people hated PoR but... Phinigel is in a unique position where it has nearly 20 current-content raid guilds and will continue on this arc with a few falling off because they can't beat the content, and likely will arrive in SoF with 10+ guilds having cleared Solteris, which was unheard of back in the day.

Agnarr was great from a marketing perspective because it won't hurt Phinigel's population too bad and will only bring in new players not interested in the Phinigel model, which keeps alive their largest server and has the potential to create a second largest server with Agnarr.

Really they need to resurrect Al'Kabor though.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Bruno [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We'll see soon enough. Then we can revisit our posts and see who was right.

Most of the Phinny players just went through Classic - > PoP in the last year. Maybe if Agnarr launched a couple years from now. Some Phinny players will definitely play it.

It will get a lot of old EQMac, P99, and Ragefire/LJ players though

[Cecily]

Good MMOs seem to be fun for about 2 years, then it's just playing out of habit till you find something new. Probably isn't true for people like us who have been playing EQ in recent years, but I imagine someone freshly coming back to the game will have a great time.

[Bruno]

120 mcmuffins, 40 bigmacs, 40 large fries, 20 apple pies, and 20 milkshakes to go until Agnarr release.

[trite]

Wonder how much I'd have to spend on exp potions before I Hit max AA

[Andos]

Originally Posted by trite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wonder how much I'd have to spend on exp potions before I Hit max AA

None, just use 1/4 of the time you'd spend waiting to FTE race for mobs experiencing and you'll get there in no time.

[Hakubi]

Oh boy!

- Mage box armies pushing everyone out of camps
- No GM's to intervene so people intentionally train non stop.
- Cheaters/hackers
- MAJOR RMT Krono economy
- EXP pots/fast grind
- Rapid fire unlocks and raid bosses dead within a couple days
- OP melee and classic balance issues
- non classic content/ hundreds of "QOL" from Soul Binders, no corpse runs, to client side perks
- Missing limited time items that will never drop
- Instances exponentially increase the inflow of rare items causing them to become worthless
- Droppable raid loot so nothing has any value except raid loot after the first few weeks
- Instanced RAIDS... nothing contested so EVERYONE gets what they want and burn out extremely quickly
- Attracts the pump and dump race kids who will leave it an empty husk void of real community, feels like a giant waste of time knowing you won't be able to jump back in in 5 years to healthy like minded people

What a shame. PoP was my favorite expansion but their model guts the best part; contesting content and the understanding that not everyone got BIS and the guy that has it in the tunnel deserve to envied, AA grinding and the expansion of class mechanics, farming plat, and having a stable economy. Seems like Daybreak is intent to drop the ball on every positive thing that WAS Planes and this will never be an Al'akbor 2.0

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Hakubi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh boy!

- Mage box armies pushing everyone out of camps
- No GM's to intervene so people intentionally train non stop.
- Cheaters/hackers
- MAJOR RMT Krono economy
- EXP pots/fast grind
- Rapid fire unlocks and raid bosses dead within a couple days
- OP melee and classic balance issues
- non classic content/ hundreds of "QOL" from Soul Binders, no corpse runs, to client side perks
- Missing limited time items that will never drop
- Instances exponentially increase the inflow of rare items causing them to become worthless
- Droppable raid loot so nothing has any value except raid loot after the first few weeks
- Instanced RAIDS... nothing contested so EVERYONE gets what they want and burn out extremely quickly
- Attracts the pump and dump race kids who will leave it an empty husk void of real community, feels like a giant waste of time knowing you won't be able to jump back in in 5 years to healthy like minded people

What a shame. PoP was my favorite expansion but their model guts the best part; contesting content and the understanding that not everyone got BIS and the guy that has it in the tunnel deserve to envied, AA grinding and the expansion of class mechanics, farming plat, and having a stable economy. Seems like Daybreak is intent to drop the ball on every positive thing that WAS Planes and this will never be an Al'akbor 2.0

Well, this pretty much makes me not want to try it. Thanks. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, this pretty much makes me not want to try it. Thanks. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did BDA not mention any of that in their loot pinata lists? How strange [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[burkemi5]

Originally Posted by Hakubi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh boy!

- Mage box armies pushing everyone out of camps
- No GM's to intervene so people intentionally train non stop.
- Cheaters/hackers
- MAJOR RMT Krono economy
- EXP pots/fast grind
- Rapid fire unlocks and raid bosses dead within a couple days
- OP melee and classic balance issues
- non classic content/ hundreds of "QOL" from Soul Binders, no corpse runs, to client side perks
- Missing limited time items that will never drop
- Instances exponentially increase the inflow of rare items causing them to become worthless
- Droppable raid loot so nothing has any value except raid loot after the first few weeks
- Instanced RAIDS... nothing contested so EVERYONE gets what they want and burn out extremely quickly
- Attracts the pump and dump race kids who will leave it an empty husk void of real community, feels like a giant waste of time knowing you won't be able to jump back in in 5 years to healthy like minded people

What a shame. PoP was my favorite expansion but their model guts the best part; contesting content and the understanding that not everyone got BIS and the guy that has it in the tunnel deserve to envied, AA grinding and the expansion of class mechanics, farming plat, and having a stable economy. Seems like Daybreak is intent to drop the ball on every positive thing that WAS Planes and this will never be an Al'akbor 2.0

Well said, quoted for visibility.