ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Kimm Barely]

Intredasting.

[Funkutron5000]

Turns out, Tywin doesn't shit gold.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Funkutron5000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Turns out, Tywin doesn't shit gold.

nope. actually, he wasn't shitting at all for a lil bit. luckily tyrion helped him loosen those bowels.

[Kimm Barely]

I did not! I furiously sped red through books 2 and 3 once GoT ended on TV. I was hooked and had to know what happened. Thank you for clearing these details out. Going to reread book 3. It's clearly the best book out of the series. It just shocked me so many times that I just couldn't put it down.

Shit like the Red Wedding stuck with me hard and the red head dying. Didn't notice these major details. I wonder if Dorne will stand with Dany after the idiot son got burnt up.

[SavageHenry]

So I'm curious what the show is going to do with Shae. She's much more of a character than she is in the books so it seems to me they'll do one of two things with her:
1) Let her go with Sansa when she leaves with LF
2) Have Tywin find out Tyrion is still involved with her and he has her hanged

I really don't see her betraying Tyrion at this point. Course the show could just be giving her more development to make her betrayal that much more unexpected, but I don't see it. Just like I don't see them making a great actor like Charles Dance die on the crapper...that scene is gonna be altered a bit I think.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by SavageHenry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I'm curious what the show is going to do with Shae. She's much more of a character than she is in the books so it seems to me they'll do one of two things with her:
1) Let her go with Sansa when she leaves with LF
2) Have Tywin find out Tyrion is still involved with her and he has her hanged

I really don't see her betraying Tyrion at this point. Course the show could just be giving her more development to make her betrayal that much more unexpected, but I don't see it. Just like I don't see them making a great actor like Charles Dance die on the crapper...that scene is gonna be altered a bit I think.

oh man, i lol'd hard, and shared your post with my RL brother, who also lol'd hard.

the whole "you cant kill this person because i love them too much" is what ASOIAF is all about. GRRM treats us as unsullied trainees in a way. instead of giving us a puppy, he gives us characters that we fall in love with, and then he takes them away from us.

Shae is a survivor and at the end of the day, shes with Tyrion for the money. after Tywin finds her, her options become limited, and she does whats needed to survive (until she gets choked out). She cannot go with Sansa because that would throw a wrench in LF's long term plans. even if Shae did manage to leave with Sansa, LF would have her killed. shes in the way no matter how u slice it, and she'll need to go.

as far as Tywin, that whole scene is important to the story and Tyrions char development. First, Tywin is already poisoned and dying when he gets shot. second, its metaphorical/ironic/significant that Tywin Lannister would be killed in a such a non ceremonious way.

[SavageHenry]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh man, i lol'd hard, and shared your post with my RL brother, who also lol'd hard.

the whole "you cant kill this person because i love them too much" is what ASOIAF is all about. GRRM treats us as unsullied trainees in a way. instead of giving us a puppy, he gives us characters that we fall in love with, and then he takes them away from us.

Shae is a survivor and at the end of the day, shes with Tyrion for the money. after Tywin finds her, her options become limited, and she does whats needed to survive (until she gets choked out). She cannot go with Sansa because that would throw a wrench in LF's long term plans. even if Shae did manage to leave with Sansa, LF would have her killed. shes in the way no matter how u slice it, and she'll need to go.

as far as Tywin, that whole scene is important to the story and Tyrions char development. First, Tywin is already poisoned and dying when he gets shot. second, its metaphorical/ironic/significant that Tywin Lannister would be killed in a such a non ceremonious way.

Oh I'm under no delusions that any of the main characters have to stay alive through this whole series. I've read all the books so I'm just talking about the show. Like the way they've written Shae makes it seem like she is actually with Tyrion for love and the money is secondary. She probably does have to go that is true, but it'll be at the hands of Tywin or possibly LF but not Tyrion. I'm sticking to that...course I guess we won't know until next season I think? =/

I had no idea Tywin was poisoned. I'm still sticking to that actor not being shown on the shitter. I'm sure he'd agree to it and I'll give them props if they go through with it, but no...just no. He has to die by Tyrion's hand, that is important...but not in such an ignoble way.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by SavageHenry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...but not in such an ignoble way.

I think dying in a very base way was the entire point. Tywin Lannister, for all practical purposes, was the King of Westeros at the time. He was the singularly most powerful individual in the seven kingdoms, and it was only a matter of time until his power was absolutely cemented.

Then he died on the shitter. It was Martin playing for keeps, and there's no way they'll change that.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think dying in a very base way was the entire point. Tywin Lannister, for all practical purposes, was the King of Westeros at the time. He was the singularly most powerful individual in the seven kingdoms, and it was only a matter of time until his power was absolutely cemented.

Then he died on the shitter. It was Martin playing for keeps, and there's no way they'll change that.

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[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by SavageHenry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just like I don't see them making a great actor like Charles Dance die on the crapper...that scene is gonna be altered a bit I think.

Originally Posted by George R.R. Martin

I've been killing characters my entire career, maybe I'm just a bloody minded bastard, I don't know, (but) when my characters are in danger, I want you to be afraid to turn the page (and to do that) you need to show right from the beginning that you're playing for keeps.