ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by holahouze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who knows what the Mad King would have done? But, Lyanna would have made a sweet war hostage if Aerys could have found her and pried her out of that tower.

well, its also possible that the mad king thought Rhaegar was conspiring against him [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by AenorVZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think that's what the King's Guard was there for. Once she gave birth, it was their job to use wilfire to burn the tower down with her inside it, Nissa Nissa style. Ned found her in a bed of blood so he got there just in time to prevent it. He probably found the tower already set up for burning when he arrived. They were just waiting for the baby to be born.

those 3 Kings Guard where there at the request of Rhaegar to protect that baby from Robert (because Robert would have had it killed).

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is bombed. 4 episodes in barely any theorycraft. We're officially beyond the pale.
D&D have successfully bus shocked the nerd community.

The problem is that the characters are no longer acting the way they should or saying the things they should. what is there to theory about? Euron will win the kingsmoot, Yara will get the Victarion story and go to Slavers Bay. Ramsay is getting ready to die, possibly in Bastard Bowl. just like every battle on the show, one side will be outnumbered and someone will swoop in to change the outcome (ramsay, jon, baelish). Jaime will lift the siege at Riverrun and will see Brienne (if Sansa is given the LSH story, then Brienne will lure Jaime off to be judge by Sansa), but only after a visit to the quiet isle. Part of the reason i love this show is because i get to see this amazing story on screen, and i no longer feel like its the same amazing story im watching.

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone care to speculate on this? Are we to believe Walder Frey is supposedly so easily butthurt that he had Robb, Katlin, and their entire wedding party murdered for the offense of Robb marrying another. Yet he is just chill with Ramsay killing Lord Bolton, Walda, and their baby?

i wouldnt count Walder out yet. we saw trailors with him hosting Lannister soldiers in the same hall as the red wedding. Since the Lannisters are pissy with the Boltons over the whole Sansa thing (remember, The Crown still wants her for "her part" in Joffrey's murder), he could be teaming up with the Lannisters, which would makes things easier still for Sansa to fulfill the LSH role by going after Freys and Lannisters. what will be interesting will be what Brienne decides to do when forced to pick between Jaime and Sansa.

Originally Posted by AenorVZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

D&D were probably promised winds of winter by now when they signed up for this. They didn't take the gig thinking they'd have to pull seasons 6-8 out of their ass.

maybe they shouldnt have essentially skipped book 4 (aside from the KL stuffs)

[AenorVZ]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

those 3 Kings Guard where there at the request of Rhaegar to protect that baby from Robert (because Robert would have had it killed).

Well yeah. I think they had a wet nurse there because Lyanna wasn't supposed to live long enough to nurse the baby herself.

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

maybe they shouldnt have essentially skipped book 4 (aside from the KL stuffs)

QFT.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by AenorVZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well yeah. I think they had a wet nurse there because Lyanna wasn't supposed to live long enough to nurse the baby herself.

(maybe enter Wylla from stage left?)

we know that Lyanna wasnt alone in that tower from:

"They had found him (Ned) still holding her (Lyanna's) body, silent with grief." — pg. 44

the story we get tells us that the only 3 people still alive were Lyanna, Ned, and Howland. if "they" had found Ned holding Lyanna after she passed, then there's a missing person as "they" implies plural and Howland (based on the info we have) would have been by himself.

the wet nurse theory fits simply because with Lyanna that close to having a baby (Rhaegar's baby no less), you would make sure the wet nurse was in place before Rhaegar rode off to the Trident.

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(maybe enter Wylla from stage left?)

we know that Lyanna wasnt alone in that tower from:


the story we get tells us that the only 3 people still alive were Lyanna, Ned, and Howland. if "they" had found Ned holding Lyanna after she passed, then there's a missing person as "they" implies plural and Howland (based on the info we have) would have been by himself.

the wet nurse theory fits simply because with Lyanna that close to having a baby (Rhaegar's baby no less), you would make sure the wet nurse was in place before Rhaegar rode off to the Trident.

If Rhaegar had his thinking cap on, I'd guess he'd have a midwife for a royal birth. Wylla may have also been a midwife - you don't need a wet nurse unless the pregnancy is truly troubled or the Mother can't nurse or chooses not too. I think they means at least one and maybe more.

[Sirken]

if Tommen dies, who becomes the rightful heir by law?

and lets assume that Dany is out for being a female, and Jon is out for being a bastard, and that Aegon is a fake (if its too hard to assume these things, just pretend they are dead).

who would be king by law, in that situation?

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if Tommen dies, who becomes the rightful heir by law?

and lets assume that Dany is out for being a female, and Jon is out for being a bastard, and that Aegon is a fake (if its too hard to assume these things, just pretend they are dead).

who would be king by law, in that situation?

Since you included Aegon in question, Captain Obvious says = Stannis.

But i know that's not what you're looking for. I expect all hell will break loose if Tommen dies and Baratheon line officially done for. I'll guess and say the Lannisters make a claim based on 5 or 6 steps back in history -- however much troubled that claim would be. Tommen and Cersei need to do some forward thinking and retire Jamie from the Kingsguard!

[deezy]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if Tommen dies, who becomes the rightful heir by law?

and lets assume that Dany is out for being a female, and Jon is out for being a bastard, and that Aegon is a fake (if its too hard to assume these things, just pretend they are dead).

who would be king by law, in that situation?

Tommen > Myrcella > Gendry

[Shrubwise]

Bran! King o duh northuh!

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Shrubwise [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bran! King o duh northuh!

i still have trouble accepting Bran will leave the cave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Safon]

Wouldn't the crown go to the closest kin of the Baratheon ruling line?

Some cousin or something.