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[DinoTriz2]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah

Excellent convincing argument.

[DinoTriz2]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/14/u...abe-trump.html

Trump supporters were right about the Deep State.

[JurisDictum]

Yea the Russia investigation fell apart. Who would have thought.

It also looks like Trump might be gearing up for a war with Venezuela... The strategy will be to use this as in opportunity to harness wartime popularity and demonize socialism at the same time....

But,

IDK if people are buying it this time. And he might get cold feet when pollsters detect that. Unless Venezuela attacks us, I just don't see the hunger for more nation building in South America.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea the Russia investigation fell apart. Who would have thought.

It also looks like Trump might be gearing up for a war with Venezuela... The strategy will be to use this as in opportunity to harness wartime popularity and demonize socialism at the same time....

But,

IDK if people are buying it this time. And he might get cold feet when pollsters detect that. Unless Venezuela attacks us, I just don't see the hunger for more nation building in South America.

Now there's a major 'shut it down' effort on talk about the real foreign influence on American politics. Israel.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by costanza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shut it down! Ha, classic. Vintage

It's not hyperbole.

[DinoTriz2]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea the Russia investigation fell apart. Who would have thought.

It also looks like Trump might be gearing up for a war with Venezuela... The strategy will be to use this as in opportunity to harness wartime popularity and demonize socialism at the same time....

But,

IDK if people are buying it this time. And he might get cold feet when pollsters detect that. Unless Venezuela attacks us, I just don't see the hunger for more nation building in South America.

It's an interesting thought, but I honestly don't see war with Venezuela.

Sure, we're not friendly with them, but a campaign against them would be really random.

I wouldn't support a war against Venezuela.

They don't pose a threat and their citizens don't deserve saving. They've made their bed.

I don't believe in nation-building. If they don't want Democracy, that's their choice.

[JurisDictum]

Corporate Democrats Aren't Winning Any Swing Voters


According to conventional wisdom, the Democrats must appeal to middle-of-the-road swing voters in order to defeat Trump in 2020. Supposedly these voters want a moderate who “crosses the partisan divide,” “finds common ground with all classes and income groups,” “removes barriers to advancement,” “builds public/private partnerships,” “works for the common good against all special interests,” “avoids the extremes of the right and the left,” and “shuns costly pie-in-the-sky programs.”

Wrong.


This observation is further confirmed by a fascinating chart prepared by Lee Drutman, (“Political Divisions in 2016 and Beyond“) based on survey data from 8,000 Clinton and Trump voters compiled by the Voter Survey Group. A significant split emerged around two main clusters of opinion — economic populism and identity politics. (Unlike exit polls this survey is more than 10 times larger a sample and contains many more questions, and therefore should not be dismissed as just another poll.)

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Here are the 2016 voter percentage breakdowns:

Progressive Populists account for 44.6 percent of the electorate according to this study.
28.9 percent are Culturally Conservative Populists.
Arch Conservatives account for another 22.7 percent.
And a miniscule 3.8 percent for the Culturally Liberal/Fiscal Conservatives.

Keep in mind,

This is 2016 and only includes people that voted for Trump or Hilary. So I think its almost certainly over-represents the popularity of Corporate democrats and the fiscal center.

That just blows me away that in country with hundreds of years of free market fundamentalism propaganda...over half of conservatives are populist. I knew that the socially liberal economically conservative opinion was unpopular..but man is that fuckin' unpopular.

No wonder everyone agrees the media is shit. They have the least popular opinion in the country.

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[DMN]

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Racist.

[Wonkie]

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Racist.

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