All Sleeper Server Threads Moved Here, Love Sirken

[Tyrion]

Tried this server out. Base xp is like 1% which for noobs just starting is awful. It takes alot longer as a lower level to level up on this server (just like 1 to 5) and its much faster on P99. The only saving grace is the hotzone xp, but given that is not applied to some starting zones I think people will try and then give up.

Nice idea, but I do not see it lasting. Back to P99 for me.

[Kevynne]

Originally Posted by Allizia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With the right tools it's really not that hard to get a cut up version of the stock DB that resembles classic. I know for a fact I can redo Nek forest(a zone that pretty much needs to be completely recreated, most do not) within 3 hours, because I've done it.

Remove out of era NPC's (15 min)
Change models for some of the spiders etc (10 min)
Redo pathing grids from scratch (1 hour)
Redo/adjust lootdrops and loottables (1 hour)
Recreate and Adjust a few NPC's and stats/levels for existing(20 min)

Is it fine tuned? No. Is The Sleeper fine tuned? No. Do I have any desire to actual do it and deal with peoples problems? No.

I'm just saying they don't have much done for the amount of time they have been working on it, with the exception of a few specific changes such as AC calculations.

you do realize they've most likely been concentrating on the ac shit and xp since day one, and putting off the smaller stuff till later.... right?

also double xp in hotzones. 1 hr in bb went from 9.05 to 10.1

[Allizia]

Originally Posted by Kevynne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you do realize they've most likely been concentrating on the ac shit and xp since day one, and putting off the smaller stuff till later.... right?

also double xp in hotzones. 1 hr in bb went from 9.05 to 10.1

The point remains, the easy shit takes no time, so why would they release like this after spending so much time working on other aspects of the server? When I cook a steak I don't spend a day working on perfecting the marinade just to half-ass cook it in 2 minutes. Most of the broken quests probably just need updated itemID's.

Focusing on experience seems to have backfired, as many people have already quit because of it.

Also,

It's double hotzone modifier (15% -> 30%), not double experience. It still sucks, and your choices are limited since you are stuck in a hotzone to see any gain.

[Innovative]

Love all these people complaining. The devs seem to be patching things at least once a day to fix reported broken quests, non-velious items, etc... It's been open less than a week and the majority of players seem to be around level 8-18. I bet we'll see the first 60's before the end of May.

[Allizia]

"Tons of white knights claiming the exp is ok because a few bards swarm kited to 20+ after 4 days, and the people who grinded through the "faster than P99 on a twink" stage before it was nerfed and shot up to 15+. There have already been balance issues (some iksars noobs earning 200+pp each the first day because of coin drops, first day huge experience bonuses for some zones)"

[pharmakos]

my level 1 enchanter killed 5 yellow cons in a non-hotzone and dinged 2

exp isn't that broken

but TBH the only reason i'm playing on The Sleeper is because of the promise of tokens to spawn raid mobs

grinding back towards 60 on a new server is still gonna take less time than poopsocking/tracksocking dragons for my epic on P99

[Kieu]

Originally Posted by Kevynne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you do realize they've most likely been concentrating on the ac shit and xp since day one, and putting off the smaller stuff till later.... right?

also double xp in hotzones. 1 hr in bb went from 9.05 to 10.1

lol, they sure did a grand job at xp since 'day one'. Considering a level 1 gets 1% from a wasp/bat. Vivid ideas.

Stop trying to defend a terrible server. What people will defend to get a guise and all other prenerf items. Unfortunately by the time that happens, and they're all nerfed, no one will be there.

[Stinkum]

I would love to see all the complainers in this thread back in 2009 or whatever when P99 came out. There was shit tons of bugs here with everything from pathing to loot tables and beyond, and P99 devs responding to the playerbase certainly wasn't as quick as it is on The Sleeper.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Allizia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With the right tools it's really not that hard to get a cut up version of the stock DB that resembles classic. I know for a fact I can redo Nek forest(a zone that pretty much needs to be completely recreated, most do not) within 3 hours, because I've done it.

Remove out of era NPC's (15 min)
Change models for some of the spiders etc (10 min)
Redo pathing grids from scratch (1 hour)
Redo/adjust lootdrops and loottables (1 hour)
Recreate and Adjust a few NPC's and stats/levels for existing(20 min)

Is it fine tuned? No. Is The Sleeper fine tuned? No. Do I have any desire to actual do it and deal with peoples problems? No.

I'm just saying they don't have much done for the amount of time they have been working on it, with the exception of a few specific changes such as AC calculations.

p99 is still removing out of era NPCs and its been out for 3+ years. going to have to call bs on the time you think it would take to do all that.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would love to see all the complainers in this thread back in 2009 or whatever when P99 came out. There was shit tons of bugs here with everything from pathing to loot tables and beyond, and P99 devs responding to the playerbase certainly wasn't as quick as it is on The Sleeper.

There was no better emu that P99 could compare itself to in 2009..