Lock Server Until an Agreement is Met

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derpcake how about we just have the GMs dictate how everyone plays their character when they log on; they get a message about which zone they're allowed to play in based on how powerful they are and how many alts they have. You happy now bro? You're one of those guys who can overlook a monstrous dictator if the ends justify the means. Where did freedom go on this server? Looks like its gone because some ppl couldn't hang and now need to cry. Some fucking WoW morons up in here right now.

You should be quite happy that I am not the server owner.

I would keep all of the 86 TMO accounts banned. You should not share accounts with those you don't trust, and you will be held liable for any actions taken on your account.

This is the policy that is on live. Its classic. I hear people on this server LOVE CLASSIC.

2nd I would offer an exchange service for 1 month, you can get an item or another favor in exchange for letting me ban a lvl 60 alt of your picking.

3rd I would delete, with a 2 day warning, all characters level 50+ which have been played less then 80 hours in 1 year. Petitions to restore them would be looked at on an individual basis, and require the character to be played as a main - full time, or to remain in the void.

4th I would actively look for high end guilds / characters exploiting, and ban them in the most public way possible.

5th and finally I would make it entirely clear that Pareto does not apply on my server, and that I won't allow a minor percentage of the population to occupy a major percentage of available CS time.

Guess what bro? P99 wouldn't care, the hardcore would keep hardcoring - or not, either is ok, and the remaining people would enjoy P99.

You ask about freedom? You are a funny man.

Your freedom ends where you start limiting the freedom of another. That is exactly what the batphone people are doing.

I know, because I've done it on live myself.

While I could understand and perhaps even support you 10 years back, as a player with disregard for the community and no long-term vision, as a server-admin, and even as a casual player, these days I have to say: fuck off.

P99 isn't about you or the top raiders. Its about the remaining 95%, that make this server interesting enough to play on.

This might be news, but noone really gives a fuck about VP kills or Trakanons on this server. Let me know when TMO or another guild page hits FoH like page visits, and has Furor like influence.

Until that day you just a bunch of guys doing something which was trivial for every respectable EQ char 5 years ago, so really, noone gives a fuck. Get rid of that idea, its hindering your sight.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, I specifically said "Variance" there. Way to quote on something never typed. You're a smart one.

You say the way the game was meant to be played. It was never meant to be played with Variance, everything was supposed to spawn 3 or 7 days later. So lets play it the way it was meant to be played, a giant FTE-fest every 3 and 7 days.

[Fountree]

Why is the batphone limiting? It's well within the grasp of others to do the same thing. You just choose not to take advantage of that tactic. Sorry, you lose now.

I don't care about live either, could care less about your old guilds and your old exploits. P99 is about Classic EverQuest. That needs to preserve a competitive atmosphere of some kind or it's no longer EQ. Sorry.

[derpcake]

You guys are like a bunch of 35-year olds that are batphoning to keep a kids ride occupied.

Thanks to your vigilant efforts hardly any of the kids have been given their moment of fun.

Its pretty epic to me, this discussion - I had it all on EQlive - 10 years ago. At that point there was still a solid serverwide competition, and everything was fought over;

- access to older zones without getting key
- free AA
- shortcut to epic 2.0
- boosts to lower level content
- xp bonus (who needs it when max AA)
- .....

Good times.

Now tell me I have entitlement issues, I should go back to WoW, and EQ is not a daycare.

I'll care a lot!

[Fael]

Xasten speaks the truth.

These negations are entirely artificial. If you removed Rogean from the equation, then the casuals would have gladly accepted the original offers. It would have been more than their wildest dreams come true.

Then again, if you remove Rogean from the equation, TMO/FE/IB wouldn't have offered what they offered.

Each side lacks any bargaining power whatsever. The GM staff have it all, but claim to be unwilling to use it. Each side now is simply holding out in hopes that Rogean ultimately will dictate a compromise more favorable to their terms.

A forced compromise is not a compromise. Oh: and 5/9 guilds is only a majority if every guild had the same vote, power, etc. IB/FE/TMO have just as many active people as those 5 put together.

Dolic




Dolic

[Fountree]

Deajay, I'd be fine if they removed variance. Let's do it and start the poopsocking and FTEing. Will make the server much more unpleasant probably, but at least it's not a rotation.

The key to all this is really simple: release velious or start a new blue on a correct timeline. This isn't the players fault, this isn't the GMs fault, this is purely the fault of the extended timeline and the top-heavy scene its created. I'd say 85-90% of the dissatisfaction coming from players over the raid scene really boils down to "hey, I'm 60 I want to raid and get loot now" ...oh crap I can't get loot cuz this guilds dominating. RAAAGE

[Nirgon]

This line at Chipotle is like 20 minutes. Reminds me of variance + calendar.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is the batphone limiting? It's well within the grasp of others to do the same thing. You just choose not to take advantage of that tactic. Sorry, you lose now.

I don't care about live either, could care less about your old guilds and your old exploits. P99 is about Classic EverQuest. That needs to preserve a competitive atmosphere of some kind or it's no longer EQ. Sorry.

The batphone is a lifestyle.

While you may think it is grand to wake up in the middle of the night, to kill a dragon I could solo AFK with any of my 3 alts on eqlive, other people might just not care as much.

Or you know, they could have stuff like jobs and families, and while I'm sure your lesbian-pornstar-wife and 3 harvard kids have no issues with you waking up in the middle of the night to "slay the dragon", not everyone is as fortunate as you.

Please give these fine people, wether they care less or have less fortunate real lives then you, a moment of thought.

They would like to "slay the dragon", you understand this - you get up for it in the middle of the night.

One day they would perhaps also like to "join the uberguild", but I guess that is no concern of yours, and its best if they piss off now being the pansies they are.

/shrug. I think you are a fine example of why guilds like Assent, and longer Term Triality failed. Zero long term vision, alienating others, thereby killing the community and not recruiting what remains.

Again, you are on P99, not on EQlive. More I need not say.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you removed Rogean from the equation, then the casuals would have gladly accepted the original offers. It would have been more than their wildest dreams come true.

Rogean, much like me I guess, wants to ensure that this server has a bright future.

Thats not done by locking out a large part of the population from raids.

Getting rid of the top 5%, is just a 5% loss. If that serves the remaining 95% of population, its a great plan.

[Fael]

Derpcake,

No one cares how elite you were 10 years ago.


Thanks,

Dolic