The official RMTer Goodbye P1999 Thread

[loramin]

Originally Posted by smedlysmom14 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got one question though, what would the actions be if a friend gave another friend 100k, or a fungi, or a cloak of flames to start out with? How is that differentiated from RMT?

Short answer: the GMs have their way.

Longer answer: I think it's all about context. One person transferring a high value item in exchange for nothing isn't going to to be considered RMT, but if the GMs see the same guy giving lots of items/plat amounts to various other players they've never even met, they know something is up.

Originally Posted by BigHurb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

since its impossible to play without corruption

What? It's not only possible, it's very easy: don't RMT. That's it.

[Leeyuuduu]

Originally Posted by smedlysmom14 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got one question though, what would the actions be if a friend gave another friend 100k, or a fungi, or a cloak of flames to start out with? How is that differentiated from RMT?

One of the ways the GMs probably pulled this off was to have a sting-type operation where one of the GMs actually purchased plat on the site, met the RMTer in-game, opened up his account info/logs afterwards, and then went after every person this RMTer did business with, and then the people who did business with those who received stuff from the RMTer.

So I think the differentiation would be if your account or your items can be traced back to a dirty source or not.

[Lirkci_Prexus]

Thanks p99 for the experience! Was fun while it lasted!

Holepoker 46th Rogue

[Taffan]

Need IP bans, imho.

[rideponies]

IP bans are a joke, anyone with google can get around an IP ban fairly quickly.

[khanable]

I'm behind 9 proxies

ban me bro

[weezilla]

Originally Posted by smedlysmom14 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think whenever an account is flagged for RMT they should be warned every time they log in and only get 1 warning. That way people aren't shocked when they get banned 3 months down the road, while also preventing RMT from flourishing.

The best way to stop RMT isn't by watching them do it and banning them, but from preventing them from doing it in the first place.

I agree. Even to ban immediately. But waiting several months to do bans just lets RMT flourish, lets people who just spent money get addicted for several months, and allows said platinum to disperse through the server. I would have been pissed, but less pissed if I had been banned a week or two after the purchase (or even the day of).

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by weezilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree. Even to ban immediately. But waiting several months to do bans just lets RMT flourish, lets people who just spent money get addicted for several months, and allows said platinum to disperse through the server. I would have been pissed, but less pissed if I had been banned a week or two after the purchase (or even the day of).

that level of pissing off the rmter would motivate my patience and keep doing massive bans

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by weezilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree. Even to ban immediately. But waiting several months to do bans just lets RMT flourish, lets people who just spent money get addicted for several months, and allows said platinum to disperse through the server. I would have been pissed, but less pissed if I had been banned a week or two after the purchase (or even the day of).

Wouldn't matter. People would still have a problem with it, and whine and complain and protest their innocence. They do it their way. It seems to be working.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by weezilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree. Even to ban immediately. But waiting several months to do bans just lets RMT flourish, lets people who just spent money get addicted for several months, and allows said platinum to disperse through the server. I would have been pissed, but less pissed if I had been banned a week or two after the purchase (or even the day of).

Multiple small bans = people getting let on to the strategy they use for detection.

Large ban = QQ forum post impotent rage