Catherins attempt at lawyering

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[Juevento]

CCR is such shitty music.

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Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CCR is such shitty music.

This is why Class R shouldn't get opinions

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[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CCR is such shitty music.

^ Obvious Lil Wayne dick tickler

[Raev]

Loaded up a little CCR. Fuck off Juevento.

P.S. Unbrella, in response to your post in Officer RNF which I cannot reply to, by my math if we get 3 repops per month under the new system we would have 2/7 C, 2/7 R, and 3/7 FFA. That is only 28% of mobs R as opposed to 33%. So I don't understand why the class C guilds would be giving up anything there.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly.

Don't get trolled, Chest. I was just starting to enjoy our dialogue for once - I think the forum community was enjoying it as well.

Your officer and the Taken officer essentially described the entire situation to us. We'll accept a testimony like that from the party being scrutinized for a violation as hard evidence. So while there may not have been a significant amount of photographic, video, or log-based evidence, the scenario described in as much detail as possible by the officers present matched up with what limited resources we had to review on our end.

Honesty is most definitely the best policy, and your officer did the right thing by not trying to hide anything. We will always be more lenient with people or a group of people who are immediately up-front about a potential violation, be it a mistake or on purpose. I know you guys feel the removal of a Class R Nagafen was too much, but I think it was a light punishment for a light crime, and was our best option at the time - and still would be our best option now.

As a side note, Class R guilds do have compensation to offer Class C guilds during a dispute, but obviously giving up a coveted Class R spawn is a hard hit to guilds who only get a few each month to begin with. Still, in many situations that may be preferable to a GM decision.

[Servellious]

remove FFA change it to class C, since class R guilds dont even go after FFA targets unless its taken doing coth ducking or training everyone in hate.

Better yet sirken and deru should just quit wasting their time on ungrateful pricks and make this the wildwest.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't get trolled, Chest. I was just starting to enjoy our dialogue for once - I think the forum community was enjoying it as well.

Your officer and the Taken officer essentially described the entire situation to us. We'll accept a testimony like that from the party being scrutinized for a violation as hard evidence. So while there may not have been a significant amount of photographic, video, or log-based evidence, the scenario described in as much detail as possible by the officers present matched up with what limited resources we had to review on our end.

Honesty is most definitely the best policy, and your officer did the right thing by not trying to hide anything. We will always be more lenient with people or a group of people who are immediately up-front about a potential violation, be it a mistake or on purpose. I know you guys feel the removal of a Class R Nagafen was too much, but I think it was a light punishment for a light crime, and was our best option at the time - and still would be our best option now.

As a side note, Class R guilds do have compensation to offer Class C guilds during a dispute, but obviously giving up a coveted Class R spawn is a hard hit to guilds who only get a few each month to begin with. Still, in many situations that may be preferable to a GM decision.

Sadad (who was the rep) wasn't even at the incident in question and I seriously doubt anyone had records of how many trackers we were using at the time. This was back before coth ducking became the regular plan so I'm pretty sure it was just a random tracker.

It takes a fucking government inquiry to tag TMO or IB with any sort of indiscretion and you threw the book at BDA based on a shoulder shrug and "ya maybe that happened" and had zero actual evidence. That's bullshit. There's no rule on the books saying you can't engage a dragon that someone else is already engaged on (this is relevant for velious faction hits btw) but the punishment was only levied based on an assumed violation.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CCR is such shitty music.

All of your opinions have become invalid as of this post.