2020 Election MEGAthread

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Woke Locc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/p...eceding-states

83 hits for Ctrl-F 'slave'

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lol, pokisan you're so far left and I never had any idea.

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it was over individual state rights and the fed wanting control.

The North demonized southern states slavery via widespread propaganda. They really didn't give a shit if the south had slaves or not. The fed didn't want individual states making their own laws that the fed had no say in.

Try picking up a history book, It will help you make sense of things in the present day too. And then you can stop being so angry at the world.

[Woke Locc]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try picking up a history book.

Why, so I can read the same secession declarations I just linked you?

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Woke Locc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why, so I can read the same secession declarations as I just linked you?

This is the type of thing we're dealing with. People who ignore history and facts. Believe what they think is true rather than what is proven to be true.

Trump is not a racist btw

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really hope we get to find out tonight and not a week later who won...


Did you know most people think the American civil war as over slavery?
It wasn't. it was over individual state rights and the fed wanting control.

I can agree to disagree on this one, I really think it depends on where you school and grew up for our generation. And I dont hold anything against anyone who agrees or disagrees with this.

I would agree a percentile of people fought and died in the civil war for individual state rights. But was it the cause and reason for the civil war? I dont think you can prove that. While I think it is possible to prove otherwise because there is written declaration from states that started the civil war that it was specifically about slavery. yes it was their state _right_ to have slavery, but that was the _only_ right they were fighting for. So it's actually misleading to say that it was "over state rights"... it was over slavery, but the right for a state to have its own slavery law.

Not for annoying northerner taxes or federal abortion law. It was because the country was going non slavery and these states did not want that to be the way. And so they wanted their "right" to slavery.

So its fair to say sure that some wanted maybe state rights (I'd wager those people didn't have a very high opinion of the mental capacity of free'd slaves and were balking at the idea of it, but that is totally anecdotal) but as for the cause of the civil war being over state rights, states wanted their right to slavery and nothing in the constitution would protect that, so they succeeded.

Ergo, it was over slavery. But, if you want to champion those few men that fought and died for liberty, under the direction of slave owners, go for it! But, I will agree to disagree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Id change my mind if someone could convince me!

[Elrood]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you know most people think the American civil war as over slavery?
It wasn't. it was over individual state rights and the fed wanting control.

What a dumb and wrong fucking thing to say.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by Elrood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a dumb and wrong fucking thing to say.

God damn Baler is such a dumb fucking idiot.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God damn Baler is such a dumb fucking idiot.

Please stop making personal attacks against forum users, including myself. It's against the rules and you have a vivid post history of making personal attacks against users of this forum.

Originally Posted by Morton Jr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So who do you guys think is going to win? I want trump to win but i still think biden will

I want Trump to win. I'm hoping it's a 2016 repeat.
Will be immersed later tonight deeply.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you know most people think the American civil war was over slavery?
It wasn't. it was over individual state rights and the fed wanting control.

I'm going to clarify this because some people can't read well or english isn't their first language.

The civil war was not OVER (as in, not started due to) slavery. This is a fact.
The civil war was about slavery. sure, ok, one could say that. This can also be considered a fact but means something different.

Educate yourselves and stop gas lighting false flags.

[Woke Locc]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm going to clarify this because some people can't read well or english isn't their first language.

The civil war was not OVER (as in, not started due to) slavery. This is a fact.
The civil war was about slavery. sure, ok, one could say that. This can also be considered a fact but means something different.

Educate yourselves and stop gas lighting false flags.

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[Woke Locc]

is this a bit