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Sirken · #**2771** 05-04-2016, 06:50 AM

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Was really disappointed with how jon came back. We all knew Melisandre was gonna try, but I hoped she would fail and he would pull a Dany and rise up out of his funeral pyre and we'd eventually discover he was Targaryen (Lyanna + Rhaegar) and fulfilling that prophecy that they've been hinting about forever.

Dany never died, and was never laid in a pyre. Dany was more or else protected by Mirri's blood magic if i remember it correctly. so i dunno why you'd expect Jon to just hop out of a pyre. especially when we know fire hurts Jon (season 1, Jon badly burns his hand fighting an other and defending the Lord Commander Jeor Mormont). the book and the show make a very clear point of showing us that priests of the red god have the ability to bring people back from the dead (this is Beric Dondarrion's entire purpose for existing in the books and especially in the show). and then when the show went off script to make a point of having Mel meet Thoros to learn about the cleric epic, it was essentially shoving it in our face. after that point, there should have been no doubt in anyone's mind that Mel was bringing Jon back [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken · #**2772** 05-04-2016, 06:53 AM

side note.

does anyone doubt at this point that Yara/Asha on the show will be given Victarion's story from the book (ie: the sail to Mereen and get Dany part)

Fael · #**2773** 05-04-2016, 08:44 AM

Hard to say.

In the book series, it seems that the battle of Mereen (and the appearance of Victarian) is happening while Dani is encountering the Khal Jhaqo.

My guess is that Victarian will be dead by the time Dani returns to Mereen.

Patriam1066 · #**2774** 05-04-2016, 01:15 PM

I expected Melisandre to Rez Jon. I didn't expect the scene to be so ridiculously pathetic. Rezzing should be difficult or it should at least be explained that only certain people can receive them. That looked like Melisandre didn't even give a shit. Also, we get a useless prologue about Varamyr sixskins explicitly to demonstrate how skinchangers go into their animals. Jon was in ghost before receiving 96% clickie... That should've played a part in it IMO.

Overall, I hated the episode, but I'm glad roose is dead and Jon is back. Jon v Ramsay will at least be entertaining. Isn't Baelish somewhere building an army to march north? I wonder if the Freys will be joining him on account of Walda + heir being brutally murdered.

Anyway, what I took from that episode:
1. Leaf said Bran will leave the cave. That's news to me...
2. Can't wait to see Wyman Manderly WTFPWN Ramsay by defecting to Jon at the decisive moment
3. If that dragon / Tyrion scene occurred in the books, id believe 100% that he has Targ blood. That said, I don't think Dan and Dave are smart enough

iruinedyourday · #**2775** 05-04-2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was really disappointed with how jon came back. We all knew Melisandre was gonna try, but I hoped she would fail and he would pull a Dany and rise up out of his funeral pyre and we'd eventually discover he was Targaryen (Lyanna + Rhaegar) and fulfilling that prophecy that they've been hinting about forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PlwDbSYicM

AenorVZ · #**2776** 05-05-2016, 04:49 AM

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But still, how are the dragons gonna get out of the pyramid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FINE. They're going to walk out ... one with Tyrion on its back. He'll be taking Quentyn's part.

holahouze · #**2777** 05-05-2016, 09:00 PM

Just had a chance to re-watch.
>> I think the doorway Tyrion uses is large enough for each dragon to squeeze through. Though they seem to have other plans at the moment.
>> Tyrion has hurdled the big Quentyn moment, right? Set up for Tyrion as a Targ (you're no son of mine).
>> I also was surprised when Leaf told Meera that Bran wouldn't be staying in cave. I'm not sure what all that means, but ITB I fear he's stuck there.
>> Hodor/Nairn needs to negotiate a personal trainer into his contract. Definitely showing signs of struggle picking Bran Muffin up.
>> I think Sansa's scenes this season have been real effective. big step up in acting.
>> For those who didn't care for Mel's role in resurrection, please feel free to join my fantasy that Ghost stirring right before Jon awakens is significant.
>> Yep, I think Yara/Asha takes on Victarian role in Mereen. More character consolidation/substitution.
>> Ramsay's hounds seem appropriately vicious. WTF happened to them when they had Sansa and Theon cornered?
>> I don't understand the showrunners ignoring certain small details - like Bloodraven being an Albino and his birthmark, and Euron only have one eye. Interrupts my vibe.

I liked the episode better the 2nd time around.

AenorVZ · #**2778** 05-06-2016, 08:50 AM

#TeamGhost

Also, if anyone interrogates the showrunners about what the dragons were doing, they could say there was food toward the back of the hall that the dragons will now eat because they're happy to have their collars off. One of my initial nitpicks was that Tyrion probably looked like a good snack to them if they were not that hungry. After about four watches I think we got some real smart dragons here. Also agree they going out the front door.

Sirken · #**2779** 05-07-2016, 02:22 PM

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Hard to say.

In the book series, it seems that the battle of Mereen (and the appearance of Victarian) is happening while Dani is encountering the Khal Jhaqo.

My guess is that Victarian will be dead by the time Dani returns to Mereen.

agreed on the first part. but i dont see Victarion dying (although fun fact, there's a huge theory that Victarion is already dead, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comm...arion_and_the/). i see Victarion and Dany making some sort of deal along the lines of he'll sail her and her minions to Westeros if she somethingsomething Euron.

Sirken · #**2780** 05-07-2016, 02:28 PM

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Anyway, what I took from that episode:
1. Leaf said Bran will leave the cave. That's news to me...
2. Can't wait to see Wyman Manderly WTFPWN Ramsay by defecting to Jon at the decisive moment
3. If that dragon / Tyrion scene occurred in the books, id believe 100% that he has Targ blood. That said, I don't think Dan and Dave are smart enough

1. you and me both. i never expected bran to leave, simply because it seems Bloodraven has never left. will be interesting.

2. im very happy Wyman Manderly will be in the show. i was worried itd just be the fams weve already seen (Karstarks & Umbers). here's to hoping we get them meat pies later on! (in the trailer theres a scene with freys and lannister troops in the same hall as the red wedding. i'm HOPING thats when we see some meat pies.

3. why? Nettles was a straight up dragon rider (having tamed the dragon known as Sheepstealer), and Nettles had not one once of Targ blood