Asking a favor from the two top guilds on the server

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The inherent problem though, is that on live no individual character, no matter how much they raided (with the exception of some main raid tanks), was able to get every piece of gear available for that character before the next expansion released. On live there was no point in which you've "beaten Everquest".

On Project 1999 it's different, when you take into account the fact that the content isn't "new" and the knowledge of how to tackle it is already there, coupled with the fact that it's been over 4 times the length of time since the next expansion was due you get a guild like TMO, who have gotten to the point where their raid force isn't just gearing their alts because their characters are maxed, they are all gearing their third and even fourth characters in certain cases with end game content gear. They have literally beaten Everquest.

This isn't meant as a flame, this is simply stating cold hard facts. It has much less to do with them earning the pixels and the right to sell them and more with they have nothing better to do with their lives than continue to do such and as a result the bulk of the server's population (every single non TMO player) suffers because of it.

The only "fair" fix, which won't happen because of the nature of cartain players and server management's desire to appease everyone regardless of the problems certain group(s) cause for the community, is to remove TMO from the equation entirely, they won't stop no matter what anyone says. But since that will never happen, Sirken was 100% correct, the only way to combat the top guild will be to beat them at their own game and beat the zerg rush with a bigger zerg rush.

Another big reason for this is the rediculous FTE system, but pointing that out only falls on deaf ears too...

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not even sure what a "13 beard old douche" is. I wish I could have grown a beard at 13.

13 year old (or at least someone with the mentality of a 13 year old) neckbeard. Though it's obvious you were feigning your misunderstanding of the term.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

13 year old (or at least someone with the mentality of a 13 year old) neckbeard. Though it's obvious you were feigning your misunderstanding of the term.

nope never heard/used that term before. keep it classy!

[finalgrunt]

Been a week. Not a single answer from Zeelot or Alarti to give me feedback from TMO on this. Who else should I contact for this then?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

you might as well ask someone with OCD to stop always saying they have to go sharpen their pencils, finalgrunt. Zerg only understand zerg. you are asking a (very modest, imo, and not in fact even disturbing the status quo scarcely at all) small non-zerg-like question. Equals: the scene in Star Trek TOS where Kirk gets Harry Mudd's fembots all crazy because he confounds their ROM.

Or to put it in more contemporary terms, you might as well have asked them if you could have their bucket.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you might as well ask someone with OCD to stop always saying they have to go sharpen their pencils, finalgrunt. Zerg only understand zerg. you are asking a (very modest, imo, and not in fact even disturbing the status quo scarcely at all) small non-zerg-like question. Equals: the scene in Star Trek TOS where Kirk gets Harry Mudd's fembots all crazy because he confounds their ROM.

Or to put it in more contemporary terms, you might as well have asked them if you could have their bucket.

thanks for your expect evaluation. Can you clarify your raid experience again on p99? I missed it.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Been a week. Not a single answer from Zeelot or Alarti to give me feedback from TMO on this. Who else should I contact for this then?

I think it's fair to say you can forget it.

I suggested something similar about 6 months ago and it was also ignored.

[Woahnelly]

I'm gonna go ahead and nerd it up here for a minute...

I'm not suggesting a merger like sirken did, but what about a grand alliance. when sauron threatened middle earth, different races came together to subdue him.

TMO has proven that they: 1) have no lives. 2) care only about pixels and care not about the server. And 3) are incapable of reason.

div, a-team, bda, and other guilds in the same boat should get together and hash out a plan that allows them to compete for high end raid targets such as trak, ct, and inny. Unless you all want to pay 500k for epic pieces and trak teeth. See: TMO auction thread.

I think that through cooperation, your goals can and will be achieved.

[Woahnelly]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a lot of you have common goals, common interests, and most of all, a common enemy. so, maybe it's time to do something about it

+1

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

it's a trap

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The inherent problem though, is that on live no individual character, no matter how much they raided (with the exception of some main raid tanks), was able to get every piece of gear available for that character before the next expansion released. On live there was no point in which you've "beaten Everquest".

On Project 1999 it's different, when you take into account the fact that the content isn't "new" and the knowledge of how to tackle it is already there, coupled with the fact that it's been over 4 times the length of time since the next expansion was due you get a guild like TMO, who have gotten to the point where their raid force isn't just gearing their alts because their characters are maxed, they are all gearing their third and even fourth characters in certain cases with end game content gear. They have literally beaten Everquest.

This isn't meant as a flame, this is simply stating cold hard facts. It has much less to do with them earning the pixels and the right to sell them and more with they have nothing better to do with their lives than continue to do such and as a result the bulk of the server's population (every single non TMO player) suffers because of it.

The only "fair" fix, which won't happen because of the nature of cartain players and server management's desire to appease everyone regardless of the problems certain group(s) cause for the community, is to remove TMO from the equation entirely, they won't stop no matter what anyone says. But since that will never happen, Sirken was 100% correct, the only way to combat the top guild will be to beat them at their own game and beat the zerg rush with a bigger zerg rush.

Another big reason for this is the rediculous FTE system, but pointing that out only falls on deaf ears too...