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[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tell me how a bible scholar such as yourself would interpret these passages then:

James 5:14- Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.

Matthew 5:29- If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell.

Matthew 5:30- And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.

Matthew 5:34- But I say to you, Do not take an oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God

Matthew 5:39- But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Matthew 5:42- Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you.

Matthew 6:6- But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

Matthew 6:19- Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal

Luke 14:33- So therefore, any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple

Face it, you are a sinner and are not welcome in God's kingdom.

Maybe you should do some honest and thorough research on those scriptures and figure it out. It can't be too hard, even a simpleton like me can understand it.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe you should do some honest and thorough research on those scriptures and figure it out. It can't be too hard, even a simpleton like me can understand it.

Matthew and Luke make it very clear. Possessions should be given away and you are not welcome in Heaven if you refuse to do so. Even a child could read those passages and understand them. You ignore the commandments because they are too inconvenient for you. You put more faith in material possessions than you put in the bible as do 98% of Christians.

[Non Quixote]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe you should do some honest and thorough research on those scriptures and figure it out. It can't be too hard, even a simpleton like me can understand it.

Leewong, you must read the Bible with the Jehovah approved Bible Vision Glasses ™ . They really do help, as it seems that common words in the bible can have some crazy definitions. They help with verses and chapters too, although even Christians fight tooth and nail over what things mean. I suppose some of them aren't wearing the approved glasses.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Non Quixote [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Leewong, you must read the Bible with the Jehovah approved Bible Vision Glasses ™ . They really do help, as it seems that common words in the bible can have some crazy definitions. They help with verses and chapters too, although even Christians fight tooth and nail over what things mean. I suppose some of them aren't wearing the approved glasses.

I have to say that's pretty funny. But scientists fight over what things mean too, so that's not a proof against any particular belief.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe you should do some honest and thorough research on those scriptures and figure it out. It can't be too hard, even a simpleton like me can understand it.

He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it. -Titus 1:9

And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth -Timothy 2:24-25

Ignoring more of God's good word.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Matthew and Luke make it very clear. Possessions should be given away and you are not welcome in Heaven if you refuse to do so. Even a child could read those passages and understand them. You ignore the commandments because they are too inconvenient for you. You put more faith in material possessions than you put in the bible as do 98% of Christians.

Your misunderstanding of the bible has no bearing on me whatsoever. Thanks for the concern though.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it. -Titus 1:9

And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth -Timothy 2:24-25

Ignoring more of God's good word.

Not sure why you would quote those and presume that I ignore them, but ok.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your misunderstanding of the bible has no bearing on me whatsoever. Thanks for the concern though.

Please do tell me then. When Luke commands you to give away ALL possessions...what is he really saying? So funny watching you tap dance around this.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically what this guy says is it's ok for scientists to make claims towards what is accurately correct and not correct without extensive proof, but not religious people.

I know it's not going to do a whole lot of good, but I wanted to address this.

No. That is not what he said. Science is a process. It has no ego and no sacred cows. Evolution may perhaps one day be proven false, and if it is, science will immediately adopt that new evidence into its framework. There is no dogma beyond methodological rigor, and no belief beyond knowing that you do not know everything.

When you flip a light switch you expect the lights to come on. You have done this thousands of times, and every time the bulb comes on. Repeat action has established a trend of consistency that leads to a reasonable expectation that flipping the switch will turn the light on or off. The first time the bulb burned out you were probably puzzled, but no matter, you simply adopted this new fact into your world view and moved on. Eventually you figured out that in 99.9% of switch flips the light comes on and in the rest it's broken.

The "theory" of evolution has been built in exactly the same way. It is no more than a reasonable explanation for observations made in the course of study. Consistency and predictive power is the essence of good theory, and the theory of evolution has promise in both areas. It is an incomplete model, but it is one that has successfully explained observations without itself being invalidated. This is the core of the scientific method; it is process without ego. Should we gather enough contrary evidence to exhaust the possibilities of evolution, it will be abandoned without hesitation.

Originally Posted by Leewong

Face it, you are a sinner and are not welcome in God's kingdom.

Perhaps you are frustrated, but this does nothing to make your argument more appealing. Science has no feelings, but people do, and you're being a rather poor diplomat right now. Also, Aquinas solved this problem a long time ago. Drop the act. Did you come here to spread ideas or to troll?

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure why you would quote those and presume that I ignore them, but ok.

Pretty obvious what I was getting at. God commands you to answer questions asked about scripture. You refused therefor you are going against God's will.