i dont always start threads, but when i do

[Bodybagger]

<Flowers of Happiness>

If you will engage in PVP willingly we will invite you. You don't need gear. You don't need to be any good. Just be on a PVP server to PVP.

If you stick around and make friends we will probably help you a lot more than we should. Lots of great people and lots of lulz... playing guilded as FoH is almost like playing a different box than other guilds. I don't know if any other guild has as much actual fun playing the game as we do... don't let their pixels or leaderboard kill/death ratios fool you. These guys are almost never having fun. As confirmed by their ooc and forum crying.

Free Koolaid.

[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I apologize if I've misunderstood you but what I've taken from the majority of your posts is:

1. Azrael wants good/elite players/ pvp'ers
2. With gear
3. At 60
4. To form a tight nit guild

Sorry but expecting that to come to you without doing any work on the front end (teaching people how to be better at pvp, helping them gear, helping them level) is ridiculous considering the alleged actions and public persona your guild puts forth.

You attract more flies with honey rather than griefing them with twinks while they level or harass and taunt less skilled pvp in ooc.

If you can't see how off putting your guild can be despite someone's interest in exactly what you claim to practice, namely top level organized play in all facets of the game, then I don't know what to tell you.

Not the case at all nor have I ever stated that. We don't want people who think they can show up and afk at raids and just wait until the NPC is there to pay some attention. We've helped plenty of new recruits 46+ with no gear level up, get their epics, resist gear, teach them along the way etc because they want to learn how to PVP.

Not sure why the griefing with twinks is only attributed to azrael every guild has them.

If people believe everything they read on the forums then more power to them. I'd prefer someone that gets to know all the guilds in game and then makes a rational decision based on first hand observations.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah, it's too bad all races in the game start on such a small and overcrowded continent.......


Boy I sure do wonder how all of those other races made it over there in the first place without the ability to get group ports til lvl 30?

Duck, you made decent points until this. Then you said this.... and it was the dumbest shit argument against twinks I have ever heard.

I level in Najena, I level in sol a/b, I level in blackburrow, hell I am going to make a run at runyeye and paw soon I think. Make a group and go do something instead of walking into the PVP hotspots on the server and crying?

Seriously... there are so many great zones to level and you moron newbs can't just enjoy the insane XP bonus but also have to go for CB>UR>MM rout for max ZEM speed grinding... for what? If you don't like fihgitng twinks, what makes oyu think you'll like fihgitng lvl 40+ twinks? People like you will only have more HP to be able to gate with. You are blue. You don't want pvp. You refuse to learnt o fight back or retreat, and in the RED box, those are your options. Those are the rules the 60's play buy, the raiders play by, everyone plays by. If you don't like those rules, go play blue and use their rules.

I don't like twink griefers either, I think they are lame, but, it's a fun challenge... it's like a lvl 20-30 raid dropping a fungi twink, only it's PVP. I cut my teeth on fungi twinks in my rags, never called LnS and kept coming back for more. Now when I PVP regular people it is almost sad because 90% still cry... no one enjoys it because they came here to be BLUE. Don't call me a PK bitch, this is a PVP server. We are all PK's.

THIS IS RED 99. THERE IS NO OPTION TO HAND IN YOUR TOME OF DISCORD. YOU WERE BORN RED. YOU WILL DIE RED. AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT, GO BE BLUE.

My only point about ports was traveling at low levels is much harder than it is at higher levels. It's a lot easier for people to get 1 port and stay in that area than spend lots of time looking/buying ports, especially if they are new and have no money.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm complaining about pvp. Let me set you straight, I'm not. Ive leveled up several characters past 30 in the short time I've been here. I get killed on a daily basis. I try to learn and get better. I bind close and try not to run/zone unless it would be giant inconvenience to get my body back. I like pvp and support it.

That said, I myself have never had any interest in killing players pose no threat. And the notion that *most* classes or even groups in rags can compete with fungi twinks is ridiculous.

Seriously, I would love to see someone do a comparison between hp totals/regen of fungi twinks and the total dps of naked caster just to illustrate how exactly how unbalanced that situation is.

The point being that fungi twink are lame and skin to repeatedly bind killing someone. If your going to do it, at least be honest about instead of trying to defend it as legitimate pvp, which it's clearly not.

[Bodybagger]

I can't help but wonder what red99 server would be like if everyone had ONE name that displayed for all character slots....

I think the anonymity is what makes the server such shit. People have alts in other guilds to use them, people have twinks and pretend they don't affiliate with them etc.

Can you imagine if no one had several characters or personas or trolling characters and twinks to hide behind? Not classic at all but oh MAN would that be hilarious. For now Red99 is reflecting in the Red99 forums... and that is a bad thing for server health.

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My only point about ports was traveling at low levels is much harder than it is at higher levels. It's a lot easier for people to get 1 port and stay in that area than spend lots of time looking/buying ports, especially if they are new and have no money.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm complaining about pvp. Let me set you straight, I'm not. Ive leveled up several characters past 30 in the short time I've been here. I get killed on a daily basis. I try to learn and get better. I bind close and try not to run/zone unless it would be giant inconvenience to get my body back. I like pvp and support it.

That said, I myself have never had any interest in killing players pose no threat. And the notion that *most* classes or even groups in rags can compete with fungi twinks is ridiculous.

Seriously, I would love to see someone do a comparison between hp totals/regen of fungi twinks and the total dps of naked caster just to illustrate how exactly how unbalanced that situation is.

The point being that fungi twink are lame and skin to repeatedly bind killing someone. If your going to do it, at least be honest about instead of trying to defend it as legitimate pvp, which it's clearly not.

You caught me bro I'm a sick fungi twink with ragebringer.... lulz

I could give a shit less if your naked caster can't PVP. You have GATE for a reason. And bind. At very low levels. The game designers knew you couldn't hold ground and needed to be close by.

Melee classes can take on twinks. They have sustainable DPS, and only need a cheap entry level weapon to put in work on twinks. I have stood my gorund on my SK at lvl 25 with Nathsar Greatsword being my best item, in rags elsewise, and put in work against ragebringing fungi twinks who try and joust backstabs like fools instead of just going toe to toe with me. I've taken on multiple fungi twinks, and very rarely do they kill me, they usually get bored and leave because it's a stalemate when they have to run off to regen hp, and come back for more. I don't get killshots on them much since they can just run off and regen, but with a little help it's possible. All killing me does is bring me back with harmtouch loaded anyways. They fear their K/D ratio dropping so anything dropping their HP rapidly or below 40% will send them squeeling to ZL to plug. Just fight back

Back to my point you dodged... if you can't kill them at 20 what makes you think you can kill them at 40? or 50? Without great gear you will always die. They will always have better gear, and be on a better suited class for sniping kills, because they are dedicated to PVP. You admittedly don't want to engage in PVP so why are you here? To spectate PVP? To enjoy the PVP environment (which you obviously aren't)? I love PVP and actively seek PVP and hate twinks because I see no sport in it and prefer being the underdog... you hate twinks because they are the only people who actively kill people in sub 40 game play. You do not engage in PVP. That's the difference between us.

[Akalakamelee]

Eq pvp alot of the time boils down to simply being smart, picking your battles, and having the right gear and/or spells loaded.
With some quick thinking and maybe a little luck, you will do fine. Fighting a fungi twink with a caster is pointless mostly, never use magic based spells since most twinks focus on MR above all over resists. Always remeber, faction is your friend too

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by Coffee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

because the goal was to win the mob not to see who got 2:0

leaderboard breads the current "omg my pristine kdr, ill never make the cut on Team Solomid if I die"

I use the leaderboard to check one thing only. To confirm if people PVP or not. Joining flowers of happiness is like the dark brotherhood in Skyrim lol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find young savages and ask them to join our band of killers. Look out for dem PK's though, toxic to the server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Akalakamelee]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I use the leaderboard to check one thing only. To confirm if people PVP or not. Joining flowers of happiness is like the dark brotherhood in Skyrim lol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find young savages and ask them to join our band of killers. Look out for dem PK's though, toxic to the server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Flowers Crootin

[skitterburst]

wow sirken, your forum posts always get the most views/comments

[PVP Cleric]

Originally Posted by MavstabYoudead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If people believe everything they read on the forums then more power to them. I'd prefer someone that gets to know all the guilds in game and then makes a rational decision based on first hand observations.

Here's my opinion, as a very new player to red:

There's basically nothing to learn on the forums at all. 30% of posts are saying one thing, 30% of posts are saying the exact opposite, 30% of posts are pure troll. All of those posts are claiming to be gospel truth. The remaining 10% are a mix of nonsense, cheating accusations, bravado about PVP that happened 6 guilds/3 years/2 boxes ago, or people who actually seem to be making sense (though what good is being sane when everyone else around you is not?).

And the "more power to them" should be going to anyone who could actually weather the storm of trying to learn about the different guilds through first-hand observations without first quitting, killing themselves, or being given a bunch of negative labels that keep any of the guilds from wanting them even if they ever did manage to figure out which one they want to join.

Most of you guys need to relax, take your own opinions with a grain of salt, and put real effort into figuring out what you truly enjoy about playing here and how you can realistically get more of that, rather than shitting all over ooc and the forums and the staff and each other.


Is everything I say true? Almost certainly not. Are all of my perceptions of the situation here correct? I really doubt it. But these are the thoughts that I've had over the course of only like a week playing on red and trying to sift through all the bullshit that's in these forums. Maybe you don't want more players to come here, maybe you don't want a lot of the players who are here already to stick around, maybe you don't want people who have played here in the past to come back... I don't know. But whatever your goals, could any of this possibly be helping?