TRUMP 2016 - Page 28

Big_Japan · #1 10-02-2015, 12:53 AM

I think this is my most successful thread ever by post count.

With the power of TRUMP anything is possible.

Also YIKES. this post really sums up the 4chong userbase since 2007:

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Oh 4chan is totally Club Beta yeah but it can also be damned funny if you know what to avoid (which is a lot). I'm not ashamed to say I visit there on occasion but I don't consider myself a part of that community because let's face it, they're weird and creepy as fuck. I suspect some are acting that way for comedic effect though; like I said it can be damned funny.

So was this shooter posting about it on 4chan? Like did he say "Watch the news tomorrow, I'm gonna shoot people" or something?

MrSparkle001 · #2 10-02-2015, 02:08 AM

How does it sum it up? I get my memes from there. It's pretty much all it's good for although there's sometimes a good videogame thread going.

Oh I should have also said one other reason I don't consider myself a part of that community is because I fucking hate anime and the site is plagued with it, like everybody loves it. Like I said I browse it for funny memes and maybe some videogame threads (I don't like reddit).

Big_Japan · #3 10-02-2015, 02:40 AM

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I fucking hate anime

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iruinedyourday · #4 10-02-2015, 11:56 AM

Republicans:

"No you cant do anything about guns, its about mental illness!"

"No, you cant do anything about healthcare either, thats communism!"

Patriam1066 · #5 10-02-2015, 01:53 PM

Democrats: "when the EPA dumps billions of chemicals into rivers, no one should be held accountable."

"When Obama signs TPP and when Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, they were somehow different than Margaret thatcher and Ronald Reagan. There is literally no difference, but I'll still vote for my Democratic Party because I have an IQ of 50."

You're right about healthcare though. Too bad your crony capitalist party gave us Obamacare, which didn't fix insurance companies, Big Pharma, or literally anything about the healthcare system. Oh, and the VA definitely wasn't ignoring veterans healthcare under this administration and previous ones. We definitely have ZERO reason to believe our country would be anything other than immaculate in their administration of a national healthcare system.

iruinedyourday · #6 10-02-2015, 02:03 PM

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Democrats: "when the EPA dumps billions of chemicals into rivers, no one should be held accountable."

"When Obama signs TPP and when Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, they were somehow different than Margaret thatcher and Ronald Reagan. There is literally no difference, but I'll still vote for my Democratic Party because I have an IQ of 50."

You're right about healthcare though. Too bad your crony capitalist party gave us Obamacare, which didn't fix insurance companies, Big Pharma, or literally anything about the healthcare system. Oh, and the VA definitely wasn't ignoring veterans healthcare under this administration and previous ones. We definitely have ZERO reason to believe our country would be anything other than immaculate in their administration of a national healthcare system.

1. Absurd, but it was an accident, what do you want to do have them executed?

2. When Obama signs the TPP I switch, like a large number of democrats, to support our savior BERNIE SANDERS who is staunchly against the TPP.

3. Obamacare would have been excellent if it were not for REPUBLICANS spouting out the same fear lies and ignorant paranoia about government run healthcare. Our government run healthcare has had a fantastic start, and will continue to grow, even though the shit republican party is dead set on tearing it to pieces with lies and paranoia.

Patriam1066 · #7 10-02-2015, 02:07 PM

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1. Absurd, but it was an accident, what do you want to do have them executed?

2. When Obama signs the TPP I switch, like a large number of democrats, to support our savior BERNIE SANDERS who is staunchly against the TPP.

3. Obamacare would have been excellent if it were not for REPUBLICANS spouting out the same fear lies and ignorant paranoia about government run healthcare. Our government run healthcare has had a fantastic start, and will continue to grow, even though the shit republican party is dead set on tearing it to pieces with lies and paranoia.

1. Yes

2. So is Rick Santorum. He was against NAFTA. So is a large part of the republican base. We'll talk if Bernie gets the nomination.

3. There was NOTHING in Obamacare about the cost of drugs. And no, government run healthcare in this country isn't working, because in the VA, like the EPA, we have no meritocracy. In Singapore, your ass gets fired if you can't do a job, that's why they're regularly in the top 3 of least corrupt nations. Our country is middle of the pack for government effectiveness in western societies, mainly because we don't believe in merit.

iruinedyourday · #8 10-02-2015, 02:23 PM

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1. Yes

2. So is Rick Santorum. He was against NAFTA. So is a large part of the republican base. We'll talk if Bernie gets the nomination.

3. There was NOTHING in Obamacare about the cost of drugs. And no, government run healthcare in this country isn't working, because in the VA, like the EPA, we have no meritocracy. In Singapore, your ass gets fired if you can't do a job, that's why they're regularly in the top 3 of least corrupt nations. Our country is middle of the pack for government effectiveness in western societies, mainly because we don't believe in merit.

Government run healthcare has made my life easier and costs me very little so yes, it is working. Is it perfect? nope, and not because of any reasons you would suggest. It's not because of lazy people or our governments ability to run something. Its once again, because of idiot republicans steamrolling everything, every day with lies, ignorance fear and paranoia without offering any solution.

The republican party is a giant hyperbole of people saying they don't want the government running anything while demanding that the government ban abortions and control contraception. Or that Corporate Politics is ruining our country, but we have to get rid of any government involvement in maintaining any corporate law.

the DNC isnt perfect but I'll be damned if you think they even in the same universe of retardation that the republican party is.

Patriam1066 · #9 10-02-2015, 02:48 PM

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Government run healthcare has made my life easier and costs me very little so yes, it is working. Is it perfect? nope, and not because of any reasons you would suggest. It's not because of lazy people or our governments ability to run something. Its once again, because of idiot republicans steamrolling everything, every day with lies, ignorance fear and paranoia without offering any solution.

The republican party is a giant hyperbole of people saying they don't want the government running anything while demanding that the government ban abortions and control contraception. Or that Corporate Politics is ruining our country, but we have to get rid of any government involvement in maintaining any corporate law.

the DNC isnt perfect but I'll be damned if you think they even in the same universe of retardation that the republican party is.

Obamacare has raised my premiums. That's neither here nor there.

What I'm saying is the two parties are the exact same, despite marketing to the contrary. Yes, they differ on some social issues to fire up their bases (neither has done anything about social issues, they demogogue the issue and wait for the Supreme Court to decide them), but in te hugely important things, like outsourcing, immigrant labor lowering wages, unaccountable government, quid pro quo in politics, they're mirror images of each other. The system isn't working, and Bernie sanders being in 2nd place 13 months before an election doesn't change that, in the same way Rick Santorum not supporting nafta didn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of the rest of republicans did, and it was signed by Bill Clinton. On the economic issues, which are the only issues that matter, the two parties suck ass and have no daylight between them. Citizens United baby. Congress and the executive branch are bought and paid for.

Lune · #10 10-02-2015, 02:07 PM

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Right, because all these other civilized countries with stringent gun laws and far fewer gun deaths per capita than the U.S. - well, shit they must not have many mentally ill among their citizenry!

Maybe it's about both guns AND mental illness. But pick one to "fix", that should do the trick.

It's not as simple as mental illness either; the United States is unique in its radical individualism, while also almost completely lacking a meaningful social safety net for adolescents and an accessible healthcare system. I'd say you can kind of get by working a minimum wage job or no job at all in a place like Denmark or Germany, if you're a burnout loser who is incapable of integrating productively into society in any greater capacity than that. Try to live that life in the United States and I'm pretty sure we'll grind your humanity out of you, and your existence will be one of abject misery.

Yes, like all complex issues, the sweet spot is a compromise that exists somewhere in the middle. Gun regulation can help. A lot. But it wouldn't solve all our problems. Places like Switzerland and Finland have a ridiculously high amount of guns per capita, without much gun violence (And no it's not because of deterrence 'muh home is murr castle', you inbred white trash rabble), it's largely because of nuances in cultural values (and the absence of Detroits and Chicagos)

Social and cultural engineering is the only real way to solve this problem, and it's never going to happen. I'm talking about something like modular educational cohorts who progress through their education and adolescent development together, and are accountable for each other. One of the luxuries of modern life is that if somebody bothers you, you can likely avoid them entirely. Whether that manifests as white flight after blacks move into your neighborhood, ostracizing annoying sperglords, or city and county zoning shenanigans that keep low income housing segregated far, far away from middle and upper class communities (if they ever build it at all). While nice on an individual basis, this also results in isolation and a general lack of social bonds, which are the recipe for mental illness.

For the hundreds of thousands of years of human life before civilization, we lived in groups of extended family clans where we simply could not avoid those we disliked entirely. I suppose we either dealt with their presence, or crushed them with a rock. Given that depression and mental illness in general are so much more prevalent among developed, modern societies, I think we really need to figure out how to reconcile modern life with the fundamental biology of who we are as humans.