Progression? lol

[getsome]

Originally Posted by Silentone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In response to you Iondera, you are scewing my words, see this is exactly what i mean, i wasnt refering to being able to prove whether Sev was being Kitted or not, i was refering to TR admiting they KS'd Sev from us, TR claims they had rights becasue we were kitting, Rogean admits that there isnt enough information to show that TMO was or was not kitting, however there is no dispute on the fact that TR KS'ed Seve they openely admited it..why is nothing being done about this? and why are admins responding to all this accusations but when i construct something semi formal I dont even get a response?

Fact: TMO had FTE with 40 in zone (not disputed)
Fact: We were pulling Sev to TT zone (not disputed)
Fact: TR pulled Sev off of our Bard and Killed it (not disputed)
Disputed Fact: TMO was Kitting Sev

Now Rogean claims the fraps/pics/logs are not enough to prove or disprove the disputed fact Sev being Kitted
TR addmiting they KS'ed sev.. why is Rogean or Admins acting on this? ...thats my question I dont know how else to word it,

Again...id like to ad, I am not butt hurt...i dont care about the suspension....I admire the work the devs,admins, CSR, all put in the server. I just want an answer so that I can be satisfied and know that you guys are doing everything you can to be fair.

Bull shit, you did not have 40 in zone when you pulled sev. I dont care if you had only 1 person in zone when you pull Sev. Just pull him accordingly. This is the reinventive history we always have to deal with.

[Sun Oct 16 12:22:22 2011] You are out of food.
[Sun Oct 16 12:22:30 2011] Thurme tells the guild, '( Fixt LD )'
[Sun Oct 16 12:22:31 2011] Grevan tells the guild, 'SEV POP'
[Sun Oct 16 12:22:31 2011] Grevan tells the guild, 'SEV POP'
[Sun Oct 16 12:22:35 2011] Grevan tells the guild, 'drol pulling'
[Sun Oct 16 12:22:38 2011] Minyin tells you, 'lol fuck'
[Sun Oct 16 12:22:44 2011] Zilo tells the guild, 'need ride from kc to ej'
[Sun Oct 16 12:22:46 2011] Severilous says 'Very cute, mortal. Please, please, don't kill me. Hah! Tell me, are you immune to poison? I certainly hope so. I am.'
[Sun Oct 16 12:22:54 2011] Severilous says 'Very cute, mortal. Please, please, don't kill me. Hah! Tell me, are you immune to poison? I certainly hope so. I am.'
[Sun Oct 16 12:22:59 2011] Minyin tells the guild, 'brt'
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:05 2011] Minyin tells the guild, 'zilo'
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:06 2011] It will take you about 30 seconds to prepare your camp.
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:08 2011] You are out of food.
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:10 2011] It will take about 25 more seconds to prepare your camp.
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:15 2011] It will take about 20 more seconds to prepare your camp.
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:20 2011] It will take about 15 more seconds to prepare your camp.
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:25 2011] It will take about 10 more seconds to prepare your camp.
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:26 2011] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:26 2011] ---------------------------
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:26 2011] [ANONYMOUS] Sabbath <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:26 2011] [ANONYMOUS] Samuel <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:26 2011] [ANONYMOUS] Vorsik <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:26 2011] [ANONYMOUS] Drolgurd <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:26 2011] [ANONYMOUS] Dellagramaticus <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:26 2011] [ANONYMOUS] Mytha <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:26 2011] [ANONYMOUS] Epik <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:26 2011] There are 7 players in The Emerald Jungle.
[Sun Oct 16 12:23:30 2011] It will take about 5 more seconds to prepare your camp.

[getsome]

A bard can run from Sev pull spot to where both our guilds currently kill Sev in under two minutes. It takes Sev 4 minutes to traverse the distance across the zone. Yes we timed it.

Your puller took over 6 minutes from Sev fte til he arrived to your camp.

Please explain.

[Zereh]

derp Because he doesn't want to pull it directly past your raid. I know I know, it's ok if you KS a mob, but why should we make it any easier for you?

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Chippy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So true. It's a shame you'd think they be appreciative.

Nilbog to server: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqJFIJ5lLs

[getsome]

Originally Posted by Zereh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

derp Because he doesn't want to pull it directly past your raid. I know I know, it's ok if you KS a mob, but why should we make it any easier for you?

Our raid is not in the pull path between sev and your raid. Maybe Perun can draw you a map. Make sure to share it with anyone who pulls sev.

[Shiftin]

But they said it wasn't disputed! You're not allowed to provide direct evidence that proves him wrong getsome.

[getsome]

This run took 4 minutes and 15 seconds on a bard.

Please explain why your puller took over 6 minutes to arrive at your camp.

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[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A bard can run from Sev pull spot to where both our guilds currently kill Sev in under two minutes. It takes Sev 4 minutes to traverse the distance across the zone. Yes we timed it.

Your puller took over 6 minutes from Sev fte til he arrived to your camp.

Please explain.

^ Facts that demonstrate a point when combined with the previously posted log. Point being: there were fewer than 10 people in EJ when Drol first engaged Sev, and he then took ~ 6 minutes -- 3 times the necessary pull-time -- to get Sev to arrive at kill spot. This is credible, if not definite, evidence that Sev was being kited while forces amassed.

Originally Posted by Zereh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

derp Because he doesn't want to pull it directly past your raid. I know I know, it's ok if you KS a mob, but why should we make it any easier for you?

This is unsatisfactory rebuttal. Firstly, assuming your opponent will break the rules does not justify pre-emptive breaking of the rules, or in other words, kiting Sev. Secondly, and more importantly, if it were true that the only intent was to avoid TR's camp, that would add -- at a maximum -- about 30-45 seconds to the pull time. Not 4 minutes, or an additional 200% of the time required.

I am doing this to show how bias plays no role in the decisions made by Nilbog and Rogean. I couldn't care less. Thus far, the evidence presented makes TR's claim completely plausible, while TMO has yet to justify their own claim. Conversely, the situation with Zeelot left no room for interpretation. This is not to say that in either case, TR is right and TMO is wrong. This is to say that TR is making a much better case. If they are, in fact, the guilty party, you (TMO) need to make a much better case for proving it. You're not leaving Rogean any justifiable reason to help you or to punish TR.

[Daldolma]

By the way, current status report -
# of PMs received: 0
# of accounts abandoned: 0

Rage-quitting is more effective when you actually quit.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Dark Knight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you checked the population numbers before you log in everytime?
It. Is. The. Fucking. Same. It. Always. Has. Been. Plus. More.

No, it has never ever stayed the same. I've been playing on p99 since basically the release. I ever remember lurking on server stats when the original 7 had been on it with server status as locked. The server population has never stayed the same. It fluctuates, if you don't understand this and you need me to write out how/why/when it does then you're a bumbling retard.