Ragefire Agreement/Rotation

[messiah_b]

Originally Posted by Kassel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Arsenal, I dont know when you cleared fear last but we killed at least 8 mobs on break in alone so i am sure there was more than 4 up. I am sure the situation must have sucked but it shoud be common policy to scout the fear portal prior to sending in your full crew.

Since Draco is so often sitting on the portal?

[Kassel]

Why do you guys even read stealins posts? His claim to fame on this server is being the biggest liar (troll) on the forums.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Kassel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you guys even read stealins posts? His claim to fame on this server is being the biggest liar (troll) on the forums.

if you think i'm joking/trolling, you're gravely mistaken.

[ElanoraBryght]

We can't talk about who is technically where in the rotation, since there isn't a rotation yet. There could have been one. Look at your leadership for why there isn't.

Before the raid suspensions :

[Fri Feb 17 17:12:27 2012] You told Zeelot, 'i was just talking to xeli, i dont know if your paths crossed before she logged'
[Fri Feb 17 17:12:36 2012] Zeelot tells you, 'yeah he just started talking to me'
[Fri Feb 17 17:12:41 2012] Zeelot tells you, 'About the epics right?'
[Fri Feb 17 17:12:43 2012] You told Zeelot, 'yes'
[Fri Feb 17 17:14:29 2012] You told Zeelot, 'the way it had been left with elethia, someone from each guild would get together and /random to set the rotation order'
[Fri Feb 17 17:16:05 2012] Zeelot tells you, 'I told him I'd be down to put VD into a rotation, but I would like to get 2 more for tmo if possible before that starts. IB arranged an uneven agreement and I'd like to get it evened out before putting you guys in'

After the raid suspensions were handed out.

[Mon Feb 20 01:54:37 2012] You told Zeelot, 're: Ragefire, is it ou or Xeli we need to talk to'
[Mon Feb 20 02:01:07 2012] Zeelot tells you, 'xeli'

Hopefully the leaders will all be on to talk tonight.

[maverixdamighty]

You have an opportunity to show your willingness to rotate the mob this week without TMO/IB's leaders to be involved...

[falkun]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have an opportunity to show your willingness to rotate the mob this week without TMO/IB's leaders to be involved...

If we don't involve them their members will go back to clicking air like they did prior to the original agreement (after their suspensions are up).

Originally Posted by Aata [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you say 'leaders' hope you're not just talking about 3 guilds?

Please find a post where coldblooded ever mentions excluding guilds outside tmo/ib/vd. now do the same for tmo/ib leadership. Please let me know what you find.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we don't involve them their members will go back to clicking air like they did prior to the original agreement (after their suspensions are up).

The problem is that, in the interim, this is exactly what you're forcing every other guild to do. The consequence is that guilds whose clerics are unwilling to engage in an asinine clickfest will be bullied out of getting their epic, while those who do take part in the clickfest end up wasting insane amounts of time.

Not hating or anything, I don't think VD are bad people at all, I just think this isn't every well thought out.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is that, in the interim, this is exactly what you're forcing every other guild to do. The consequence is that guilds whose clerics are unwilling to engage in an asinine clickfest will be bullied out of getting their epic, while those who do take part in the clickfest end up wasting insane amounts of time.

Not hating or anything, I don't think VD are bad people at all, I just think this isn't every well thought out.

This happened because the rotation as implemented is complete/on hold due to the raid suspension of all members of the original rotation before it was updated to include guilds outside of the raid suspension. Cold tried to work on the rotation agreement prior to the raid suspension and she was flatly refused by one member of the rotation. I cannot speak to the efforts of other guilds with respect to the rotation, but I would assume other guild leaders were also pushing to get their members added to the rotation. But that effort did not result in a rotation. Since the rotation is not happening atm, we are back to the chaos. Do not be niave enough to think that VD clerics will waste a ragefire. Get your guild leaders to force the rotation talks. VD isn't stopping you from joining the rotation, but we will work within established agreements (or the lack thereof in this case).

[JoeBob]

Originally Posted by ElanoraBryght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hopefully the leaders will all be on to talk tonight.

Lets just hope that you aren't "too tired," to talk to them tonight when they reach out to you.

[Aata]

When you say 'leaders' hope you're not just talking about 3 guilds?