The official RMTer Goodbye P1999 Thread

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Archestratie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well said, but also if P99 became a huge cash cow for someone, anyone, then Sony might have to take action to shut it down to protect its own IP. To me, that's the real danger. I don't give a rip if RMTs give some players an advantage over others.

Apparently you haven't experienced the hidden forest server where there are people running around with literally THOUSANDS of dollars of "donation gear" on single characters.

[Archestratie]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Apparently you haven't experienced the hidden forest server where there are people running around with literally THOUSANDS of dollars of "donation gear" on single characters.

Does it have the population of P99?

[Edgetiq]

Originally Posted by Archestratie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well said, but also if P99 became a huge cash cow for someone, anyone, then Sony might have to take action to shut it down to protect its own IP. To me, that's the real danger. I don't give a rip if RMTs give some players an advantage over others.

What Sony doesn't know... doesn't hurt it.

Some people have accused the GMs of being in on the RMT the GMs ask for proof...

It's a vicious circle.

Let's just say there's no proof that they're not in on the RMT. That's for sure. Just because they 'ban' 400 accounts.

Crazy guy with all the emoticons has a point... nobody runs servers for free.

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Edgetiq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What Sony doesn't know... doesn't hurt it.

Some people have accused the GMs of being in on the RMT the GMs ask for proof...

It's a vicious circle.

Let's just say there's no proof that they're not in on the RMT. That's for sure. Just because they 'ban' 400 accounts.

Crazy guy with all the emoticons has a point... nobody runs servers for free.

Lol, there's also no proof they dont' eat babies. There's no proof they aren't actually Martians. There is some proof that its not them that make incredibly stupid posts, tho.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Edgetiq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What Sony doesn't know... doesn't hurt it.

Some people have accused the GMs of being in on the RMT the GMs ask for proof...

It's a vicious circle.

Let's just say there's no proof that they're not in on the RMT. That's for sure. Just because they 'ban' 400 accounts.

Crazy guy with all the emoticons has a point... nobody runs servers for free.

Keep your tinfoil hat theories to yourself and off this forum.

We work extremely hard to ensure RMT doesn't happen on this server, and your insinuations are insulting to myself and the rest of the staff.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Lron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol so dumb. You are switching the burden of proof like theists do to atheists.

It is not the staff's job to prove they arent involved in RMT, it is your job to provide the proof that they are.

Just like its not my job to prove im not a reptilian hell bent on destroying the world, its your job to prove that i am, if that is your position.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

It's actually neither. The default position is that "we don't know," not "the staff are not involved in RMT until proven otherwise."

That also applies to your half-assed analogy to theistic/atheistic arguments.

[Leeyuuduu]

Originally Posted by Nadril [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically yes. Everyone complains how RMT ruins camps,economy, and creates an unfair advantage. These camps will be taken whether the PP is sold for real cash or not. Reality is the majority of the kids kicking and screaming are the ones that can only get ahead in a game tilted into their own favor. EQ classic is not a skill based game, more time=more success. Every unemployed Tom, crippled Dick, and disabled Harry will be the real "winner" in EQ, time is in their favor. For others that have obligations and priorities over an EMU server, one way to catch up when starting out without feeling completely left behind in a Norrath dominated by twinks and alts, is to spend a couple hours of pay. This scares the crap out of people that stare at their toon for 12 hours a day because it means people that earn a living and have lives can actually compete with them. I digress. You can conjure up hundreds of reasons why RMT is da devil, fact of the matter is it't wrong for only one reason. Because its in the rules.

That's very sound logic, but I too am a desk jockey with just a few hours of game time a week and I still wouldn't turn to RMT or condone those who do so. The primary reason is that it's against the rules you agreed to abide by when using this free service that is P99. If there is any gray area within these rules, it's for the staff to decide, not the players, and certainly not the person breaking the rules. As an aside, if being competitive in a 15 year old MMO bothers you so much that you find yourself breaking these rules and spending RL cash, maybe it's time to find a more casual MMO, or at least a more casual EQEMU server. There's quite a few out there now.

[BigHurb]

RMT killed Jesus Christ of Nazareth the only Begotten Son of Our Lord Father in Heaven Above

[Nocsucow]

Originally Posted by BigHurb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RMT killed Jesus Christ of Nazareth the only Begotten Son of Our Lord Father in Heaven Above

Prove it

[Duckwalk]

There is plenty of proof gm's have in the past been involved in RMT but watch out guys all this RMT talk is going to get you suspended like my poor level 15 necro.

/ooc'ing "lol, just bought 150k, who has fungis to sell" in EC immediately after 400 accounts banned is bad mmmkay.