The real story behind the Nihilum forced disbanding.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nizzar was short of patience, frequently belittled people and used his position of power to force people into submission, refused to teach many people such as other monks how to pull VP and other zones so that the guild could function without him, was a black hole for guild bank loot with zero accountability, etc.

Gongshow on the other hand is a kind and benevolent leader, he is of great patience, helps even those such as Juggzmcgee learn how to pull VP [something Nizzar would NEVER have done, in fact Nizzar muted Juggz and ultimately booted him], makes decisions that are transparent and just.

Not even close.

Juggz seemed a little frustrated at first but Smaug took him under his wing.

A beautiful moment tbqh.

[Pikrib]

Off the record Emissary Pikrib: Yeah my guild is pretty scummy too...

Hippo
I don't believe that last part, because I gave Farzo stuff and his group stuff when he was like lvl 15. Along with buffs and heals. Farzo got brainwashed by Drakaris. It is known.

Drakaris
Did you call me a "Bursar" the other day? I was kinda busy in pvp destroying the evil scorge of the server Holocaust. Only to take a T-staff to the face and get melted. It was a fight involving 20 Holocaust and 50 Fresh vs 7 brave Azrael. Sorry if I didn't get back to ya.

Your pal
Emissary Pikrib

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hippo
I don't believe that last part, because I gave Farzo stuff and his group stuff when he was like lvl 15. Along with buffs and heals. Farzo got brainwashed by Drakaris. It is known.

I know there are nice people on the server in all guilds but Drakaris was in a guild that allowed for him to reach out and bring Farzo in. If you were in Azrael at that time and reached out to Farzo in the same fashion he still would not have been let in. If he was let in as a personal favor to you he wouldn't get epic support or leveling help.

What individuals do at levels 1-50 are good for the server but irrelevant to a players choice of guild at level 50+. At certain points in server history it was either Azrael or Nihilum and everyone knows Azrael has always had the worst support system for new player progression at end game.

50+ the game changes completely. Generally you are KoS to everyone in the game not in your guild. For new players during the Nihilum era Nihilum had to seem like the nicest guild in the world to take them in and help out. All the bullshit that went on explained by Heartbrand is the last thing on the minds of a fresh recruit and by the time they find out (may be 4-6 months) they have already made friends in guild and been ostracized by anyone outside of the guild.

Azrael always made Nihlum stronger by their methods, especially when they would swallow any guild with a chance of having a friendly mentality to new recruits.

[Pikrib]

After farming the server uncontested for 2 years im sure Nihilum had enough cash/loot (minus RMT costs of course) they could twink every new person who started this server if they wanted to. Instead they shat on new guilds planar raids, and corpse camped lvl 52's before there was LnS.

After LnS policy was set in stone and pvp range was changed to 4 lvls they probably seemed like stellar chaps though. Which is probably around the time Farzo/Sapphiay joined the server. So I really don't blame them for thinking Nihilum was the best thing since sliced bread. That was also around the time they finally started losing more often. Not having an iron grip on the server probably made them more welcoming. Nizzar couldnt afford to lose his pixels or would have to get a job for his beer money.

[Tune]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sapphiay

Niz was a guildleader so he was held to a higher standard. He got his warning and still spit in the GM's face. No one misses your scumbag, dirty, cheating, RMTing guild Sapphiay. The server is better without your guild and it's proven by the server count every day. Please leave your brainwashed stockholm syndrome shit at the server select screen if you decide to come back to R99. If you don't want to come back to R99 you can always hang with Nizzar who i'm sure is already back to his old RMTing and cheating ways.

Your pal
Emissary Pikrib

what happened to niz was not fair, im not just saying it bc hes my friend, but i think you are too new to the server, or too ignorant for a valid opinion. And banning nihilum has no impact on population. numbers naturally go up in the winter time, all you did was lose some normal people

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After farming the server uncontested for 2 years im sure Nihilum had enough cash/loot (minus RMT costs of course) they could twink every new person who started this server if they wanted to. Instead they shat on new guilds planar raids, and corpse camped lvl 52's before there was LnS.

After LnS policy was set in stone and pvp range was changed to 4 lvls they probably seemed like stellar chaps though. Which is probably around the time Farzo/Sapphiay joined the server. So I really don't blame them for thinking Nihilum was the best thing since sliced bread. That was also around the time they finally started losing more often. Not having an iron grip on the server probably made them more welcoming. Nizzar couldnt afford to lose his pixels or would have to get a job for his beer money.

this is blown out of proportion propaganda

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Tune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what happened to niz was not fair, im not just saying it bc hes my friend, but i think you are too new to the server, or too ignorant for a valid opinion. And banning nihilum has no impact on population. numbers naturally go up in the winter time, all you did was lose some normal people



this is blown out of proportion propaganda

remember when u guild removed me and said i have no more moves? hehehe now ur banned and so is nizzar. c u l8r.


also lol @ this being normal pop increase, red never hit 200 with nihilum on the box, not even during winter. we've now hit 300 on multiple occasions something that hasn't occurred since December 2011.

[Drakaris]

Originally Posted by Tune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what happened to niz was not fair, im not just saying it bc hes my friend, but i think you are too new to the server, or too ignorant for a valid opinion. And banning nihilum has no impact on population. numbers naturally go up in the winter time, all you did was lose some normal people



this is blown out of proportion propaganda

I kept my options open to see both sides of the fence when I first started. I got to know the players, who was ganking, who was shit talking and I found that Nihilum seemed like a nice and mature crowd. If I joined any other guild it would have been Azrael, but only because of Agatha, who was an ooc warrior wierdo but seemed like a nice guy nonetheless.

TBH I was not around for all the other crap people say Nihilum did, however during the 18 months I was tagged, it seemed like a pretty fair guild... put the time in, get your pixels and the guild bank kept spares for epic MQs in case there was a bad run... as long as you became full member, you got your epic...

Nizzar only really hated Lite with a passion, which is why every guild Azrael touched got stomped into the ground...

The only thing I'm confused about is Heartbrand's hatred towards Nizzar. It seems to me Nizzar and Elderan were doing their best to work with Red Dawn and they did not want the guild to die so long as they disassociated themselves from Azrael.

Nizzar also didn't really want to kick Heartbrand from the guild, it was under the pressure of other members to make that move. I don't get why people had a lot of hate for Heartbrand at the time, but those players that pushed for Heartbrand to be kicked were not affected by the bannings or disbanding of Nihilum.

Anyways Tune, I heard some GW players have been chumming it up with Azrael, isn't that against everything you stood for? Did you forget the rez box trains in VP and petition quests to get us raid suspended over stupid shit?

[Tune]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nizzar RMT'd loot as a guild leader

banned his stuff, told him to stop leading or he was gone for good

he kept leading, got blacklisted

nothing unfair about that

1/6 of above said statement is true

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

remember when u guild removed me and said i have no more moves? hehehe now ur banned and so is nizzar. c u l8r.


also lol @ this being normal pop increase, red never hit 200 with nihilum on the box, not even during winter. we've now hit 300 on multiple occasions something that hasn't occurred since December 2011.

1/6 of the above statement is true. and we only have more numbers now because more time has passed

Originally Posted by Drakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I kept my options open to see both sides of the fence when I first started. I got to know the players, who was ganking, who was shit talking and I found that Nihilum seemed like a nice and mature crowd. If I joined any other guild it would have been Azrael, but only because of Agatha, who was an ooc warrior wierdo but seemed like a nice guy nonetheless.

TBH I was not around for all the other crap people say Nihilum did, however during the 18 months I was tagged, it seemed like a pretty fair guild... put the time in, get your pixels and the guild bank kept spares for epic MQs in case there was a bad run... as long as you became full member, you got your epic...

Nizzar only really hated Lite with a passion, which is why every guild Azrael touched got stomped into the ground...

The only thing I'm confused about is Heartbrand's hatred towards Nizzar. It seems to me Nizzar and Elderan were doing their best to work with Red Dawn and they did not want the guild to die so long as they disassociated themselves from Azrael.

Nizzar also didn't really want to kick Heartbrand from the guild, it was under the pressure of other members to make that move. I don't get why people had a lot of hate for Heartbrand at the time, but those players that pushed for Heartbrand to be kicked were not affected by the bannings or disbanding of Nihilum.

Anyways Tune, I heard some GW players have been chumming it up with Azrael, isn't that against everything you stood for? Did you forget the rez box trains in VP and petition quests to get us raid suspended over stupid shit?

don't care at this point

[Muleworth]

Originally Posted by Tune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and we only have more numbers now because more time has passed

Lmao

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by Tune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what happened to niz was not fair, im not just saying it bc hes my friend, but i think you are too new to the server, or too ignorant for a valid opinion. And banning nihilum has no impact on population. numbers naturally go up in the winter time, all you did was lose some normal people



this is blown out of proportion propaganda

If ya havn't noticed 99 percent of forum posts are "blown out of proportion propaganda"
See any Heartbrand or Nirgon posts for examples.


I disagree about the numbers see chart below.

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