Rotation RNF Thread

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's see. First topic that I remember discussing with Detoxx was him wanting to lower the allowed number of trackers. This was due to Aftermath (or maybe FA, whatever) did not have the number of willing trackers that Awakened did. So, I am supposed to just cut off my legs to level the playing field? When have you ever done that?

Oh you mean when Rampage and Forsaken had a nice 2 mage per wing agreement and you decided to up it to 2 mages PER TARGET? Silly me, trying to make it so 34 mages (people) didn't have to CoTH to 17 different targets on a 17 year old game.

What was I thinking? That clearly defines which guild is better...

[Joyelle]

you shouldn't have been gating your mages to North.

[Erati]

this thread might get me through the work day - couple more pages

'crosses fingers'

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you shouldn't have been gating your mages to North.

How did I know this was coming. Not only did we concede 2x each mob for that BUT it was something Rampage/Forsaken used to do every week and because half your mages got banned due to some RMT, you decided you couldn't do it so cried about us doing it (when itd been happening on both sides for months) then stuck 2 mages per target.

I agreed to not do it anymore, conceded 4 mobs for it, proved to you it used to be common practice with Ramp and F/A and you still kept your 34 mages there.

Definitely trying to make the server and raid scene a better place!

[Daldaen]

The thing I can't get over is how many of the people asking for rotations are the ones who had to get brought kicking and screaming into the Class C/R/FFA rotation.

And you're surprised a guild comprised of, as Speedi has said, ex Taken who were consistently told to get good and compete, is a bit confused when other ex IB/Rampage and ex TMO/AM are complaining at them about not wanting to rotate more mobs now?

Maybe if some of you hadn't been so adamant against rotations 2 or 3 or 4 years ago, and had accepted that maybe during 5 year Kunark you could rotate mobs and let people get epics, a precedent would be set to allow everyone to experience Velious content. But no, you wanted to sock Trakanon with 2 full groups ready to engage for entire Windows with 10 people down there, or with corpsed DA Idol stalls or Hoop2Loot.

Don't worry though if they don't go the custom route I'm sure in 2-3 years Rogean will hear the complaints, enforce a Class C / R / FFA rotation and block out ToV, ST and Kael to Class C. Just like was done in Kunark.

[xKoopa]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this thread might get me through the work day - couple more pages

'crosses fingers'

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tell me, how many mobs did CSG get when we were suspended? Oh, zero. Right. How many did they get when you were suspended? Too many to count. And not just shit mobs, nor were they mobs we made a deal with.
We gave them high value, big target mobs. (Yelinak left up for them, Dain, King Tormax, LtK, amongst others).

QFE. There are of course people of differing ambitions in every guild. There are a lot of good folks in Awakened and Aftermath and, there are of course a few turds in each. The fundamental difference though is leadership.

AM leadership has demonstrated that they are not interested in subsidizing unhealthy play styles that unnecessarily devours their people's time when it can be avoided by simple cooperation.

Rampage leadership has done the same and I applaud them for pressing the issue as they have done with VP.

CSG has always supported cooperation as well, they just are largely incapable of 'competing' because they lack a core group of individuals willing and able to devote the resources to secure FTEs.

Awakened really seems to be the only guild to consistently refuse any form of cooperation, whether it's rotations or ordinary raid disputes.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How did I know this was coming. Not only did we concede 2x each mob for that BUT it was something Rampage/Forsaken used to do every week and because half your mages got banned due to some RMT, you decided you couldn't do it so cried about us doing it (when itd been happening on both sides for months) then stuck 2 mages per target.

I agreed to not do it anymore, conceded 4 mobs for it, proved to you it used to be common practice with Ramp and F/A and you still kept your 34 mages there.

Definitely trying to make the server and raid scene a better place!

Make the server a better place and rotate everything, give every single guild a slot.

[icedwards]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How did I know this was coming. Not only did we concede 2x each mob for that BUT it was something Rampage/Forsaken used to do every week and because half your mages got banned due to some RMT, you decided you couldn't do it so cried about us doing it (when itd been happening on both sides for months) then stuck 2 mages per target.

I agreed to not do it anymore, conceded 4 mobs for it, proved to you it used to be common practice with Ramp and F/A and you still kept your 34 mages there.

Definitely trying to make the server and raid scene a better place!

> Loses half of mages to RMT
> Parks 34 mages in ToV

Wut?

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Make the server a better place and rotate everything, give every single guild a slot.

Only if you promise to not come back...