Wall not up

[mmmroo]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he's saying secretary clinton is somewhat responsible for the carnage in libya, having armed and funded the succeeding belligerents

i dunno if its true

It is true, Hillary basically ruined a country for money. Sending it's inhabitance into a state of hell. And this is who America wished won the presidency lol.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not surprised that you want to shield your worldview by staying ignorant [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, just no interest in watching your shitty conspiracy theorists mumble through their tooth about some sort of injustice that was done to them by Obama that Trump is supposedly fixing. (I really have no idea what you linked, nor do I care)

[mmmroo]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DO YOU KNOW WHAT GENOCIDE IS? Do I need to keep asking this question? Sure, people died. THAT ISN'T GENOCIDE. Please, show me SOMEWHERE REPUTABLE that alleges that GENOCIDE is or was occurring in Libya as a result of US Intervention.

Genocide was committed by the terror group that Hillary hired. Still going on today.

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, just no interest in watching your shitty conspiracy theorists mumble through their tooth about some sort of injustice that was done to them by Obama that Trump is supposedly fixing. (I really have no idea what you linked, nor do I care)

It's literally an interview with Hillary Clinton lol

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DO YOU KNOW WHAT GENOCIDE IS? Do I need to keep asking this question? Sure, people died. THAT ISN'T GENOCIDE. Please, show me SOMEWHERE REPUTABLE that alleges that GENOCIDE is or was occurring in Libya as a result of US Intervention.

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[mmmroo]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's literally an interview with Hillary Clinton lol

He is not interested in learning new things man, just regurgitation of mainstream media talking points.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by mmmroo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Genocide was committed by the terror group that Hillary hired. Still going on today.

[Citation needed]

[ScaringChildren]

Wall IS up

(Buzzfeed not up)

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[loramin]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you have 'testimony' from a corrupt Mexican guard that works for the cartel.

How does that compare to US and Israeli guards again?

And this 'source' says Israeli guards are harder to bribe?

Dude, it's obvious you're pulling this info out of your ass.

Hungary and Israel both saw infiltrators decline by 90% by putting up a wall.

You're seriously trying to tell everyone that's because of corrupt guards??

The entire force would need to be corrupt and even then they wouldn't be able to fudge those numbers.

I don't know if you're trolling or actually believe your argument is sound.

You really are a dumb motherfucker lol

Here's the thing: in an intellectually honest debate you're not allowed to write ... well, pretty much anything you write in your posts.

You're not allowed to dismiss arguments just by declaring so, or by blaming some unrelated fact. For instance, "So you have 'testimony' from a corrupt Mexican guard that works for the cartel." ... yes, by definition any guard testifying against El Chapo will be a corrupt guard ... but only a true idiot (or in your case, a dishonest debater) would argue that we should ignore everything every corrupt person in history has ever said as a result as a result of their corruption.

You're also not allowed to ignore obviously self-evident points because there's no "evidence", eg. it's harder to bribe a guard to let bombs through than drugs ("And this 'source' says Israeli guards are harder to bribe? Dude, it's obvious you're pulling this info out of your ass.") There's no need for evidence, only logic: if some drugs get through the border (virtually) no one cares, and there's not going to be some sort of inquest to find out which guard let the drugs through. But if bombs get through lots of people are going to care, and there absolutely will be an investigation into the guards, so logically any guard who wants to keep their job isn't going to let bombs through.

And in an intellectually honest debate you're definitely not allowed to go "neener neener I'm right and you're wrong" like a five-year old ("I don't know if you're trolling or actually believe your argument is sound. You really are a dumb motherfucker lol").

In other words, intellectually honest people don't just debate to prove how big their e-penis is, they do so to genuinely convince the other side that their position is correct, and the only way to truly convince an intelligent person of anything is with intellectually honest arguments. But you don't care about convincing anyone of anything, because you don't believe in anything, you're just a troll trying to score forum points in a forum that doesn't have points.

I'll happily call out your bullshit from time to time, but I'm not going to pretend to have a debate with you when you're not willing to devote the slightest shred of intellectual integrity to what you write.

[Ahldagor]

Kadafi was playing with fire for not using the dollar to trade oil. China knows what it's doing in Africa.