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Old 09-01-2021, 06:07 PM
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gusys, when I smoke pot in the evening I've started getting really paranoid again!!! I always think I can hear the neighbors complaining about noise I am making, through the wall. I think the angels are gathering
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Old 09-01-2021, 07:57 PM
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Imagine if one field of science had 14,000 different branches and methods ALL for one thing. The study of this one particular thing, like a rock, and every single one of them said something completely different about the reason for its being, how it came about, and what its doing here, now.

Some of them said the rock was made by a giant, using a hammer on a mountain.
Some of them say the rock was made by an ancient species of aliens who used to inhabit the earth.
Some say, the rock is the living body and soul of christ and them you lick it, you're taking the forgiveness of the rock into your body.
Some say, the rock says know your role and shut your mouth.
Some say the rock needs your money and you have to give it or nothing good will happen in your life.
Some say the rock is here because a volcano spit it out, whole.

Now all of them disagree on that rock. Would you trust those guys to tell you about that rock? Like, take it as gospel, that the rock is what they say it is?
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Old 09-01-2021, 08:00 PM
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Oh just had a brilliant idea.
What if he was supposed to bring the end times, but you guys murdered him?
So, kinda lost our chance.

Ever considered that?
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Old 09-01-2021, 08:05 PM
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Yeah I often wonder if we're actually Abrahamic but were abandoned when the temple in Judea was lost to the romans and that's why we never saw the return in any of the Abrahamic religions.

Now we're just bugs in an old forgotten terrarium about to overflow into a vast and empty room.
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Old 09-01-2021, 08:09 PM
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gusys, when I smoke pot in the evening I've started getting really paranoid again!!! I always think I can hear the neighbors complaining about noise I am making, through the wall. I think the angels are gathering
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Old 09-01-2021, 08:11 PM
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It all got fucked up in 331. Nicea. You KNOW the romans rewrote that needed to be rewritten. Do you really think the OG writers said "give unto ceaser what is his?" like come on... if the dude was listening to a god, why would he say to obey a king and pay your tax? You just found out theres gods and all this shit dont matter..
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Old 09-01-2021, 09:26 PM
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Do you really think the OG writers said "give unto ceaser what is his?" like come on... if the dude was listening to a god, why would he say to obey a king and pay your tax?
But what of Caesar's was truly his? It's a similar argument that Diogenese made before Alexander. Others interpret the statement differently...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rend...ing_advantages

...but looking at it in EQ terms, it would be like saying, give to Antonius Bayle what is his and give to the Verant/SOE what is theirs. Although SOE is no more so that isn't the best example to use for monotheism and even then, from the very beginning there was always more than one developer.
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Old 09-01-2021, 10:16 PM
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It all got fucked up in 331. Nicea. You KNOW the romans rewrote that needed to be rewritten. Do you really think the OG writers said "give unto ceaser what is his?" like come on... if the dude was listening to a god, why would he say to obey a king and pay your tax? You just found out theres gods and all this shit dont matter..
They were baiting him into inciting an insurrection against Rome and Jesus said look you goofs, pay your taxes, that is not what is important here.

When asked what was the most important? He said Love God and Love your neighbor as yourself "this sums up the law and the profits" do you understand what that means? He didn't give specific political instructions because there is no blueprint for success for human beings except if we can choose to love each other.

Its clearly not a state-ist religion because it really neglects talking about political things at all except Jesus telling his hilarious followers to pay their taxes so they don't have to get thrown in the slammer roman style.

You may find other reasons to feel that Christianity is "meh" but blatantly obvious re-writes mormon style is not going to be one of them. Then again Mormons will tell you they are Christians so you gotta be careful with definitions too.

There isn't a lot of room for interpretation about that particular "Give to caesar" passage because of the the context. It's very clear what is Caesars.

Now the passage about mask wearing is really intense.
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Old 09-01-2021, 11:09 PM
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They were baiting him into inciting an insurrection against Rome and Jesus said look you goofs, pay your taxes, that is not what is important here.

When asked what was the most important? He said Love God and Love your neighbor as yourself "this sums up the law and the profits" do you understand what that means? He didn't give specific political instructions because there is no blueprint for success for human beings except if we can choose to love each other.

Its clearly not a state-ist religion because it really neglects talking about political things at all except Jesus telling his hilarious followers to pay their taxes so they don't have to get thrown in the slammer roman style.

You may find other reasons to feel that Christianity is "meh" but blatantly obvious re-writes mormon style is not going to be one of them. Then again Mormons will tell you they are Christians so you gotta be careful with definitions too.

There isn't a lot of room for interpretation about that particular "Give to caesar" passage because of the the context. It's very clear what is Caesars.

Now the passage about mask wearing is really intense.
Christ defeated the Roman state effortlessly with his death on the cross.

(Sur)render unto Caesar means let them control what they can control and reserve the rest for God and your Immortal Soul.

Also, get a wife. Best tyrants.
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Old 09-02-2021, 11:50 AM
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I just found out about this crazy show like, wtf who thought of this? At like 30 seconds in it's like, wait what?

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