14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[starkind]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In 2011 a man went to an island and shot to death 67 people and wounded another 32, most of them children. He walked across the island and methodically slaughtered people who couldn't escape.

Norway is a very liberal country, run by progressives. It ranks #1 on socialprogress.org. It's so progressive that instead of an execution chamber it gave Anders Behring Breivik an Xbox so he can play it in his cell. I wonder if it's just racing games or if they gave him Call of Duty?

For such a progressive nation Norway did not change it's gun laws. Today an 18-year old can buy a gun and 1 in 10 households own a gun.

Why didn't Norway change it's gun laws? Don't they care about their children?

cuz its not about guns

guns don't kill ppl like all by themselves lawl

[Skarne]

Let’s be real…if any GOP congressman or senators kids were at that school, they would do something tomorrow. The party follows an ego maniac with absolutely no integrity who values the dollar over human life. I also believe they want this division between the parties. They left debates, have conventions in Hungary, and an NRA convention with no guns allowed the very same week in Houston. They can’t even answer direct questions in front of a camera.

People are okay with it though so there’s that. I’m looking forward to the next time I’m called a groomer for pointing out the obvious.

[Skarne]

Also, the GA senate race will be interesting. We got Uncle Phil vs Uncle Ruckus over here.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a proposal: make it legal for only women to own firearms

Also, if you transition from male to female, you gain the ability to legally own a gun

I completely agree the problem is bigger than guns. Where the hell were the adults in this kid's life when he was *obviously* acting like a psycho for years before this happened? Probably start there.

And no making guns legally available only to women is *completely* missing the point about equalization of force. A shrimpy dude getting beaten to death by some 300 pound psycho is the exact same principle at play.

Again I'm not going to provide stats that are freely available on google. You have access to google. You've proven too many times that when somebody provides stats you don't like, you say those stats don't count for blah blah blah reason (usually cause you just don't like the source).

I'd like some explanation for why the left has such a hate boner for rifles too? The vast majority of gun homicides are committed with common hand guns. They just get emotionally bamboozled by these insanely horrific events and the fact the shooter had a scary looking rifle.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both the Uvalde elementary school and Buffalo grocery store had armed guards present. Of course people don't shoot up gun shows. It's a hard target. If your goal is to kill a bunch of people, you're likely going to find a soft target. Of course, mass murders have occurred in or near hard targets.

Here's the thing about guns: surprise and initiative are about a 1,000x force multiplier. The defender has virtually no chance against the attacker when surprise is involved. Most of these mass shooters are suicidal, fully intending to either be killed by cops or to kill themselves. Why the fuck do you think it would matter if every teacher were carrying a machine gun? If you make schools a hard target, they're only going to find some other soft target, and meanwhile you'll have a bunch of gun accidents and aggravated assaults turned into murders because a gun was available at hand.

Read my above post, I don't think gun control is the answer to this, but your post is just completely illogical.

Ya, and also the type of gun doesn’t matter as much as the circumstances

The Virginia tech shooter killed like 36 full grown adults with only 2 pistols because he chained the two exits to the building shut so no one could leave

Same deal with this most recent shooter. He could have used a single-shot break barrel shotgun and killed as many kids when he’s locked the only exit, just would have taken slightly longer

I still personally think an increase in armed and well-trained security (same as we have to protect our politicians, concerts, airports, just about everywhere else involving mass gathering of adults) would do more to deter mass shooters than any specific gun law

[Skarne]

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[DMN]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let’s be real…if any GOP congressman or senators kids were at that school, they would do something tomorrow. The party follows an ego maniac with absolutely no integrity who values the dollar over human life. I also believe they want this division between the parties. They left debates, have conventions in Hungary, and an NRA convention with no guns allowed the very same week in Houston. They can’t even answer direct questions in front of a camera.

People are okay with it though so there’s that. I’m looking forward to the next time I’m called a groomer for pointing out the obvious.

people like you are a big part of the problem. politicize shit, racialize shit, sexualize shit, -isms and otherings. You don't remember the lefty that nearly killed a bunch of republicans at a softball game? Oh but that one congressman/senator is going to amend the whole fucking constitution. Seriously, try rubbing those last two brain cells togther to maybe come up with something not profoundly stupid.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people like you are a big part of the problem. politicize shit, racialize shit, sexualize shit, -isms and otherings. You don't remember the lefty that nearly killed a bunch of republicans at a softball game? Oh but that one congressman/senator is going to amend the whole fucking constitution. Seriously, try rubbing those last two brain cells togther to maybe come up with something not profoundly stupid.

The constitution doesn't give you a right to own a gun: it gives you the right to be part of a well-organized and regulated militia. The Supreme Court made the individual right to own a gun up.

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people like you are a big part of the problem. politicize shit, racialize shit, sexualize shit, -isms and otherings. You don't remember the lefty that nearly killed a bunch of republicans at a softball game? Oh but that one congressman/senator is going to amend the whole fucking constitution. Seriously, try rubbing those last two brain cells togther to maybe come up with something not profoundly stupid.

Haha whataboutism- what an effective and intelligent argument. Ah! Another insult! Hearts and minds eh? You feel the way you want my guy. If you can't see what's happening then there's no hope for you.

Why is the republican party split?

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The constitution doesn't give you a right to own a gun: it gives you the right to be part of a well-organized and regulated militia. The Supreme Court made the individual right to own a gun up.

Yes but gun law proponents need to acknowledge the fact that there are 400 million guns in the USA, which makes these laws relative ineffective in states that have stricter gun laws

Boo hoo, I wish America never got like this isn’t constructive thinking. It is this way, we can bitch about it all we want but can’t change that now. So how does a NEW gun law in this country work effectively as a deterrent?