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Originally Posted by maskedmelon
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The lower left doesn't make sense because the government will bakrupt itself financing failure. People don't do things they don't need or want to. You can't be free and cared for at the same time. It just doesn't work. Your caretaker must have a say in your behavior. In the upper left that isn't a problem.
my general ethos though is conservative (I.e. Strong belief in individual responsibility)
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You can solve the problem of bad programs that encourage bad behavior. You cannot solve the problem of wealth consolidation and corrupt non-competitive practices among the top end of the business community.
Unfettered capitalism is not freedom at all because unfettered capitalism always produces bought out governments. Bought out corrupt governments
are libertarian governments. That is the logical conclusion of "economic freedom."
My issue with reasonable freedom-loving small government types is they unwittingly play right into the hands if big business and elite interests. They look at bad government programs and say "this is what happens with big government" or "this is the problem with government doing anything" etc. Rather than just trying to fix the actual program -- they are used as pawns to lobby for "more freedom" and slowly deprive later generations of necessary mechanisms to fight big business -- like unions and safety nets.
You can't square that circle. Just getting rid of government doesn't provide opportunity to the little guy over time. It is what big business interests want. For the most part anyway. Some are more reliant on government contracts like the defense and prison industries (funny enough -- most libertarians just happen to be OK with defense spending and harsh "law and order" policies -- not to mention "privatization"). But most don't want much out of the government other than big trade agreements -- which are toted as libertarian-friendly "free trade" policies.
Only correctly designed government allows mechanisms to maximize the potential of ordinary people. But it is complicated and takes a certain level of IQ to follow debates around policy details -- so no one does it.
It's all "look at these liberals" and "the government is bad we need less of it." And these god damn lemmings will continue to shout these slogans designed by big business until every last one of their ancestors is fucked. Even the ones that think they are making it are putting far too much faith in their genetic line to always land on top. It only takes a few fuck ups in family history to undo it all.
Not to mention the whole god damn thing is primitive ego trip anyway. Rather than "greater good" its all about perpetuating your seed as some kind of special organism that blesses us all with its very presence on this rock.
Who knows what humans are truly capable of. Maybe we will never find out because we are too busy trying to get ahead of everyone else by sucking up to those already high above us.