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Renamed guild just wants welfare scout pixels and there is nothing you can do to deny those pixles
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Originally Posted by Detoxx View Post I tried my hand at rotating with the casuals. It was at this point I decided to no longer be kind to the casuals as they have extreme short term memory. They did this to themselves, unfortunately. Quote: Originally Posted by Maner View Post No one in A/A cares that you aren't getting pixels. In fact after the last suspension wave the attitude is to stop letting the casual guilds get anything even remotely of value. | ||
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It should be feasible to one group the captain without anything too crazy, though you probably need a balanced group comp that contains a 60 tank with decent gear. You can do a tertiary kite to bring the captain to DN or just to stall until your kiter can zone and come back, so you do get all 6 people.
IIRC, ALS 8 manned him on a quake once without much difficulty, though I wasn't there so could be off on the details. I believe that did include a torp shaman, a cleric and a 60 warrior in Thurg gear, however. With some shenanigans, I suspect I might be able to duo him, though it would be messy and failure prone.
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In other words, it's not "let's only let groups do it", it's "let's prioritize the people that bring raid forces, and since we can't measure those we'll measure the next closest thing (groups)." Quote:
Saying it's an exploit to make you have to have a guild to do Scout is like saying it's an exploit that you need a full group to do Sebilis King. Because of implementation details it used to be possible for people to duo/trio King, but when the staff fixed it so you needed a group again that wasn't "introducing an exploit", it was "making the server classic again". Making scout require a raid force would be the same thing. Clickfests were classic in that way, but terrible in every other way. Rolls are better than clickfests in every way ... except that they require everyone to help. Generation 3.0 ("automated GMing") could give everyone a fair chance (no clickfest) without giving everyone free loot.
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I think the solution we have is the best - allow players to roll, respect the rolls, and vote with their feet if they want to help. | |||
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Scout is perfect as is
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That's the story of this place. Is losing XP when you die painful? Yes. Would it be "good" if you didn't? Yes ... but it would have a side effect, of making the game overall less fun (see WoW). Same deal here. I truly do like that everyone gets together and helps with roll fights, but it's 100% unclassic, and it's precisely the reason why we have giant lines with tons of people rolling ... when on live Scout was pretty much a "show up, bring your raid force, and do it" kind of a deal. This place is meant to re-create the game from 1999-2001, worts and all. That game expected you to get a bunch of friends together to do the quest: the fact that you don't have to here means it's not the same game, and the devs are failing (in some very minor way) at their stated goal.
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go back to click fest. never cheated. have average ping. won 4 click festing. since first roll. never been back to scout.
Those who compete are grossed out by /ran. Those who don't want to compete show up with everyone else who also doesn't want to compete. then complain that its not fair so many casuals show up for a free roll. Am i missing something? wouldn't click fest level its self out again?
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I haven't gone to a scout in a long long while, not really invested in this issue.
Just wanted to say though that someone might be trying to get something for their 2nd character that is maybe lower level. Is that less deserving than someones 6th 60?
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I have no idea what the OP is even suggesting. I can't decipher it. Even been playing this game 50 years.
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