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Old 06-22-2010, 05:47 PM
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It comes as no surprise to me that there are many who seem to have given up on America. I wish I could inspire you to stand up and harness your anger to do something, anything. There are many things that we need to improve. It all starts by believing that things can be improved and that you, personally, have the power to help.

The disaster in the Gulf of Mexico has been a wake up call for me. If we do nothing, the world will be continue on this path of ignorance, corruption, abuse, war and destruction. We have the choice, right now, beginning today, to use our powers for good and not evil.

I will not be taking part in any more tit-for-tat squabbling. The world needs me for other things. The world needs you, too. Your country needs you and your grandchildren need you. We can make this world a better place, but only if we work together.
Be the change you wish to see in the world. - Mahatma Ghandi
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Old 06-22-2010, 05:52 PM
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DemocracyNow is a good show, it's broadcast through my University's local radio station and usually coincides with a break in between my classes so I get to hear it a fair bit.

I recommend any American, be they Democrat, Republican or Libertarian, give it a listen because it reveals a lot of accurate information about workings of state governments at home and abroad that often gets swept under the radar of big media.
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Old 06-22-2010, 06:02 PM
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i just watch jon stewart like it's the most real news in the world.

and you know what it kinda informs me better than fox or cnn =P
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i just watch jon stewart like it's the most real news in the world.

and you know what it kinda informs me better than fox or cnn =P
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Old 06-22-2010, 07:27 PM
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Alawen, your country is the center through which emanates the fascist regime style support all over the world.
And your country is Canada. Looks Like Alawen 1, Taxi 0 from here.

By the way, if you could translate that into Chinese, I think you'd have a hit.
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Old 06-22-2010, 07:55 PM
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Looks Like Alawen 1, Taxi 0 from here.
Pretty sure a state supported healthcare is a +1. We'll call it a draw.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:04 PM
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Canada's banking system is really solid, too. I think America would do well to emulate both of those Canadian systems. What I don't know is how to make that happen given the money and power behind the insurance "industry" and the financial "industry" in America. We could also use some lessons in campaign reform and environmental regulation.

I like Jon Stewart, too, and I think he's a bright guy, but he has some extreme biases. I also enjoy Rachel Maddow. For contrast, I like to read The Economist. I used to like The Wall Street Journal but I don't care for what has happened to it since Rupert Murdoch took over.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:12 PM
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Canada's banking system is really solid, too. I think America would do well to emulate both of those Canadian systems. What I don't know is how to make that happen given the money and power behind the insurance "industry" and the financial "industry" in America. We could also use some lessons in campaign reform and environmental regulation.
Truth. Wow. I just agreed with Alawen.

Also, see our low crime rate and low prison population when compared with our southern neighbour (esp. gun crime). Another +1.

Yes, I just used a U in neighbour, the proper spelling.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:25 PM
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And your country is Canada. Looks Like Alawen 1, Taxi 0 from here.
The only place i could see myself living in the states is NYC or california, maybe Colorado as i think its one of the progressive places in the US. But having visited NYC in 2009 and seen how segregated it still is, i still prefer Montreal. You have to live here to appreciate it, NYC pretends to be a melting pot while everyone stays segregated in their own neighboorhoods.

My friend is of vietnamese origin, raised in Montreal and living in NYC. He says each time he comes back to Montreal its like a 1000 pound weight off his shoulders, because he says in NYC even the asians are segregated between themselves, cambodian Laotian, etc... and there is lots of racism there.

Single-payer healthcare system like someone mentioned, the list is long why i prefer living in Montreal rather than in the states.

I dont mean to turn this into a USA vs Canada flamefest but its another proof of your rose-tinted glasses, you thinking everyone obviously would prefer to live in the US rather than in their own country of origin.

Not to say i hate everything American right? Or else i wouldnt have listed democracy now!, wouldnt listen to american music, etc etc etc... The fact that i have to specify that im not "anti-american" is kind of telling of whats the atmosphere right now in the US, like you have to babytalk americans into reality. Or just slam them in the face with it, which is what i did in my first post.

I thought that what was annoying in your post is the misinformed naiveté of it, the HOO-RAH wrestling match USA USA USA! vibe to it, which is why i chose the slamming option.
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Old 06-22-2010, 09:00 PM
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The only place i could see myself living in the states is NYC or california, maybe Colorado as i think its one of the progressive places in the US. But having visited NYC in 2009 and seen how segregated it still is, i still prefer Montreal. You have to live here to appreciate it, NYC pretends to be a melting pot while everyone stays segregated in their own neighboorhoods.

My friend is of vietnamese origin, raised in Montreal and living in NYC. He says each time he comes back to Montreal its like a 1000 pound weight off his shoulders, because he says in NYC even the asians are segregated between themselves, cambodian Laotian, etc... and there is lots of racism there.

Single-payer healthcare system like someone mentioned, the list is long why i prefer living in Montreal rather than in the states.

I dont mean to turn this into a USA vs Canada flamefest but its another proof of your rose-tinted glasses, you thinking everyone obviously would prefer to live in the US rather than in their own country of origin.

Not to say i hate everything American right? Or else i wouldnt have listed democracy now!, wouldnt listen to american music, etc etc etc... The fact that i have to specify that im not "anti-american" is kind of telling of whats the atmosphere right now in the US, like you have to babytalk americans into reality. Or just slam them in the face with it, which is what i did in my first post.

I thought that what was annoying in your post is the misinformed naiveté of it, the HOO-RAH wrestling match USA USA USA! vibe to it, which is why i chose the slamming option.
I got more of a feel of "loving a disfunctional family member even tho you know they are flawed becuase, hey, they're family". Nothing at all wrong with national pride. It didnt seem to boarder on the fanatical to me which would put me in the same boat as you if it were. BTW I live in NYC and I wouldnt call it racist here. I'd say prejudiced but not racist. There is a subtle difference.
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