Velious class

[pasi]

Ele - The Kael Patch gutted charming the hyperbuffed non-loot NPCs. Guild updates are often sensationalized.

Kael wolves were still charmable by druids - I'm absolutely positive on this. I don't think this has changed since then (Kael wasn't a revamped zone) - I will get someone to test on live if needed.

Proof: http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-11736.html
http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-2115.html

You can start charming some wolves at 52 with CoK (and I still use these), but I'd recommend Kael charming to 63 and above (not for charm, but for the 2k quick heal...it really helps). I have 3k hp and 4k mana and do just fine self-buffed with kei. I'd also recommend the Exodus aa...will really cut down on deaths.

Druids can charm the 'Drakkel Dire Wolves' in the pit south of the bank, and these things can pretty much tear up a better part of the zone.

might be a bit rough at 57, but find a level 53 drakkel dire wolf, and charm it with command of tunare, it hits for 240ish and can equip weapons to quad/proc, but summons so keep it above 96%, also regens really fast, so add some regen buffs and it can tear through mobs near bank without losing any HP.

Command of tunare is 63 =p

Call of Karana works on a few of the wolves though.

You will have a very rough time at 57 though.

haven't done it in a while, but basically, with wolf hasted and dual wielding, at the bank you can chew through things non stop.

[pasi]

Also, the loot giants still remained charmable. That's Troopers (Boltransable), Adjutants, Legionnaires, and Veterans. Dictate hits all of them, but Boltrans is usable on Troopers. Senior Guards are fine with Allure.

It's how people CC'd Kael arena.

http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum...php/t-426.html

I would recommend two groups for kael arena ( I hate slow kills when I am farming [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ) With some form of charm to handle adds.

If you're pulling inside Arena, unless you are very careful about the spawn timer, you're going to get an add now and then. Charming the add is really the easiest way to handle it.

http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-608.html

This thread shows that the pet-aggro mechanics that we have now (aka pets giving threat to their controller).

-The charmer will get 50% of the agro generated by the pet. It was first changed to 100% but that was determined to be too much.

But also, another source of these giants not-flagged as charm immune.

Played in kael and I never had a charm last longer than 2-3 minutes on a lego I charmed in arena and several times had 3 breaks within one minute.

[Classicranger]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like I said before, I never did like Velious lol. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Everybody was a Monk, Shaman, Rogue. A Warrior was still needed though. Nobody still played a SK, or Pally, even with the Hybrid penalty off, because they couldn't still kill shit because the mobs had tons more HP. And nobody still liked a Ranger other than tracking. They couldn't Tank ANYTHING in Velious. Druids sucked other than Ports. And with Translocaters well what can I say. That pretty much leaves Bards and Wizards, well what can I say also. Bard Haste and Bard run speed in a group good. The rest the got nerfed like Chanters. don't remember Necro's getting anything to write home to mother about?? Damn good mana battery in Raids. Seems like they got Nerfed?

Is the penalty dropped on day one of Velious? I do not remember specifically

[Estolcles]

Originally Posted by Classicranger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is the penalty dropped on day one of Velious? I do not remember specifically

I think it was an update or two after, but I'm likely wrong.

Hopefully it'll happen day-of when it gets launched on p99.

[Reguiy]

What I'd like to know, is who is the best solo farmer in velious? If enchanter get a big charm nerf, who takes the throne?

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Reguiy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I'd like to know, is who is the best solo farmer in velious? If enchanter get a big charm nerf, who takes the throne?

I would say a Ogre Shaman would be up there. One of the few classes than can solo Lodizal and Dragons in WW.

[Auvdar]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would say a Ogre Shaman would be up there. One of the few classes than can solo Lodizal and Dragons in WW.

Top soloers in SoV that I can remember. Maybe bards?

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mentioned melee =) pretty much rogue/monk neck and neck IIRC aswell.

Rogues took their spot as top DPS (assuming they had the back of the mob) in the game and remained there since, but that had more to do with itemization than anything, as I recall. Wizards got a boost, also. Necros continued on an upward trajectory as being the top soloers that continued for many expansions beyond, but they shared it with the Shaman during velious. Hybrids, particularly rangers, got boosts as well as having the exp penalty removed.

It may have been early Luclin, but I'm thinking it was at some point during Velious monks got their mitigation tuned down along with their DPS to maintain balance with the roles of the 3 pure melee classes.

[pasi]

Kinda drunk, but Velious is much less dungeon oriented than kunark which eliminates the advantage enchanters have over shamans now within packed dungeons of casters. Enchanters are still very good in Velious, but they are much more 'skill' or 'knowledge' (I hate saying this) dependent than shaman. Velious is an expansion with many different factions. I'll let that statement sink into on people for considering how strong charm and memblur can potentially be with different factions. (Hint: You can solo almost anything if you know how to abuse the above - the problem being if you can find the mob up).

Shaman are better at farming AiW4 from a safety perspective which is one of my predicted the cash cows in Velious. The other cash cow is farming EToV since Raiders generally want that over their N/W ToV trash drops. EToV farming doesnt want/require an enc from a minimalist standpoint, but pets are possible if you clicky for dispell aoes.

Enchanters excel at SG farming and Kael farming which will really depend on the price of Thurg BPs and wavecrashers/seahorse belts.

In all honesty, it will be that the very, very knowledgeable enchanters that are king with every shaman and their brother close behind.

Hypothetically, monks/SKs with puppet strings are top solo dogs for Velious, but I don't think there are any monks over here knowledgeable enough to make that so (judging by Kunark).

[Tecmos Deception]

Weak. That means I'm gonna be turrible to start Velious, cause I don't know shit about it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]