Classic / Kunark state of the union

[Swish]

Originally Posted by senna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure its been stated that there will be a new blue server launched following an accurate timeline.

If you can find where that's been said by anyone that counts, then that's great for you.

Opening a new server will indirectly kill the old server, you know that.... we all know that. There isn't the population to split among 2 PvE servers, so either find another 1500-2000 players to play P99 or stop asking for a new server.

Why do you even want a new server? Want to be richer than others compared to now? Want to own 10 manastones/fungis...well so will everyone else. Think there won't be a TMO on the new one? Think it'll run better than this one?

I don't get it. Nothing will change, except there won't be as many twinks around for a few months.

[Swish]

PS - not going through that cleric epic hell again. Some of us have played for years to get our characters where they are. If they disappear, a good portion of us probably won't be playing as much the next time around.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by senna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well if theres now no plan to open a new blue server with an accurate timeline then this whole thing feels pointless

this^

we can get a good two years out of velious at least, i think. but around 2016 i would be totally willing to do this all over from day one. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by senna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well if theres now no plan to open a new blue server with an accurate timeline then this whole thing feels pointless

I have a feeling that they don't dare announce plans for a new server specificly to not make playing here feel pointless. But, in the big picture, it's pretty silly to go through all of this work and not do that, at some point. Maybe not anytime soon, but at some point.

The game is 14 years old and we are all here, happily playing. Practically daily a new thread pops up from somebody who, gleefully, just discovered p99 and that's just the ones who post. I run into legit newbies all the time. Most played back in the day. Many actual newbies who didn't. We get a consistent 1000 players (with no boxing) at peak daily and have, for what, 2 years now? Clearly, despite Sony not recognizing it for so long, classic-era EQ has legs in the long term. And it's awesome to finally, after all of those years of arguing with them and the "nobody wants to play it / it takes dev resources away from more important things" brigade on the live forums, we have it. Or as close as we've seen yet. Even with 2 stabs at progression servers over the last 6-8 years or so live, Sony never put as much effort into the level of detail as the gentlemen behind this server have. And they deserve so much credit because they have done an outstanding job and continue to. Barring some unforseen change in Sony's stance towards EMUs and actually shutting it down, or the devs just throwing in the towel for some reason, neither of which look like even remote possibilities at this point, none of this is going away anytime soon.

Pure conjecture on my part, but I have no doubt that, at some point, there will be a new server. Might be a long time, but at some point we will have one, I'm absolutely sure.

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you even want a new server?

--The server, during classic, wasn't classic. We had unclassic mechanics of all types from dot stacking to permanent charm, to root/snare stacking, to maps, targetting rings, translocators, people were boxing because they weren't as good at catching them, and that's just the stuff off the top of my head. The list goes on and on. Oh and add to that that people amassed plat fortunes by selling accounts until very recently, something that NEVER remotely was sanctioned live. These things not only made the play experience not classic, they also had an impact on the economy, and player advancement in general, in the long term that doesn't get undone by simply making the changes to classic. There are hybrids who got to top level with no hybrid exp penalty, for example. It's arguably not classic now, which is being discussed in this thread. It's very close and they've done a fantastic job, but there is still a long way to go to actually be classic.

--The timeline, because we've all been playing on a work in progress, has unavoidably been un-classic. Not a slam on the project, but it is the simple reality of the matter.

--The populations of the server now are the highest they've ever been. There are probably, at this point, more people that rabidly play here now that missed classic entirely than there were playing during classic. A lot of those people want to experience classic again.

--It's just fun to play on a new server. Especially during this era.

A new server will not kill the current server. We get new people every day. A lot more now than ever, as word has gotten out about the project. Couple that with the fact that the game is 14 years old....All of the camps and zones are well known now. You don't need 3k people to have a healthy server like on live. In fact, with the number of complete nutsacks we have playing here, you really don't need 1k people to have a healthy population. We all bump into one another much more than we did back then.

Saying that the only difference will be that there will be fewer twinks or that people just want manastones is a ridiculous oversimplification. And and untrue one, at that.

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PS - not going through that cleric epic hell again. Some of us have played for years to get our characters where they are. If they disappear, a good portion of us probably won't be playing as much the next time around.

Bye.

I know people who won't play here, now, because they already experienced it live. Sorry, but the classic EQ experience is bigger than someone not wanting to play it again. There will always be people wanting to play it again even if it's not you or my friends who I played with back in the day. Who I want to strangle for not playing, by the way. Tell them all the time, they don't know what they are missing.

Your characters aren't going to disappear. Ever. This is a matter of record. Relax.

[Swish]

We might get new people every day, but we also have people burn out and the new people need to keep coming to replace the retirees [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If an official P99 poll went up asking if you'd switch to the new server if one was launched, I'd be surprised if it wasn't over 50-60% "yes", purely because its a fresh server. Not all of us are hardcore though, not all of us want to redo epic quests and grind to 60 again and again - and there could never be a merge, otherwise the new server concept would be completely flawed.

[senna]

Because I missed the launch of p99 and so did a majority of the players.

I'm really struggling to see why launching a new blue server at some point on a classic timeline is a bad thing. After all the work of fixing bugs and trying to make things classic it almost seems like its been building towards that.

But let velious launch, let everyone have their fun and enjoy the ride. But at the end of the tunnel when everyones burned out in velious like they are in kunark now, Its the only solution.

IMO I'd rather have them continue into luclin, but I doubt that'll happen.

[Swish]

I missed the launch of P99, I don't see why that's a huge thing for people...you got a list of server firsts? Who was the first to get 60 for each class? Is it fame/notoriety you'll chase? Nobody (or very few) remember who got there first, or at this point really care who did it.

What happens after the new server hits the dawn of Luclin? Do you open another "classic timeline" server? I don't think you know the precedent you're trying to set, level a main character a 3rd time? 4th time? Some of us have jobs/commitments and don't want to keep flushing our mains down the toilet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[justin2090]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can find where that's been said by anyone that counts, then that's great for you.

Opening a new server will indirectly kill the old server, you know that.... we all know that. There isn't the population to split among 2 PvE servers, so either find another 1500-2000 players to play P99 or stop asking for a new server.

Why do you even want a new server? Want to be richer than others compared to now? Want to own 10 manastones/fungis...well so will everyone else. Think there won't be a TMO on the new one? Think it'll run better than this one?

I don't get it. Nothing will change, except there won't be as many twinks around for a few months.

^--- This all day long. Classic EQ didn't have the population at launch compared to kunark and velious. The population increase and people not having all the pre-nerfs and such is entirely classic. We just missed the boat... again. lol