Sirken's proposal

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

5 days for T1 guilds not killing T1 mobs?

I would say bump it up to 14, and let T2 guilds make their own rotation if that's what they want to do.

That is the essence of another proposal. It was already rejected.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

5 days for T1 guilds not killing T1 mobs?

Nm my math is all jacked. I need to wake up more before I read.

Look at the grid and the pools. 10 days is the best break.

[Nocsucow]

make it 2

[Funkutron5000]

In all of these proposals TMO, FE, and IB are the only guilds losing access to mobs. Every other guild is gaining significantly more access than they had before. No matter what we lose access to mobs.

I can understand why those not in TMO, FE, and IB want access to more mobs and to play their own way, but can the people on the other side at least acknowledge the reverse without calling us all hideous no-life neckbeards?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Funkutron5000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In all of these proposals TMO, FE, and IB are the only guilds losing access to mobs. Every other guild is gaining significantly more access than they had before. No matter what we lose access to mobs.

I can understand why those not in TMO, FE, and IB want access to more mobs and to play their own way, but can the people on the other side at least acknowledge the reverse without calling us all hideous no-life neckbeards?

How about unemployed degenerates?

[YendorLootmonkey]

The high stakes for PNP infractions here turns this into FrapsQuest/RulesLawyerQuest.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The high stakes for PNP infractions here turns this into FrapsQuest/RulesLawyerQuest.

its already fraps and rules lawyers man

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Funkutron5000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but can the people on the other side at least acknowledge the reverse without calling us all hideous no-life neckbeards?

Is this why the phrase casual scum popped up?

I hadn't seen in until I came back but im not surprised the hardcores are tired of being called "shit" all the time....

[Jorgam]

Would it be possible to draft a copy of the server and Xfer the top guilds, and anyone else that wanted to go with them, over to it? It would open the end game up to the lower guilds while giving the top tier players a place to compete as normal. Just an idea.

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would it be possible to draft a copy of the server and Xfer the top guilds, and anyone else that wanted to go with them, over to it? It would open the end game up to the lower guilds while giving the top tier players a place to compete as normal. Just an idea.

I see this as being the most extreme extension of the Staff Proposal posted by Rogean. Instead of splitting server mobs (except VP), make a Casual Blue, and a Hardcore Blue. If you're on Casual Blue, you must adhere to the casual rules that the guilds put together in their friendly raiding setting, and if you're on the Hardcore Blue, you must adhere to the FFA, and never bring up the idea of more casual raiding. It must always be hardcore.

The only issue I see is that you'd want to transfer the hardcore or casual population to the other server, so how do you do that? If you just let free transfers, people will start gaming economies by shuttling money over to the other server, etc. If you lock it down, than a lot of people who have quit for a break will come back being unable to switch server to the one they want their main toon on. Lastly, if you do it by a request-by-request basis, it bogs down the server staff who do everything they do for free, thank you all very much for that.

Nevertheless, it seems like the ultimate extension of the Staff Proposal. But if we are stuck on one server (given the bag of worms of other issues that open by creating two servers), it seems to be the most fair, most just, and the most likely to work.