Re: Raid Situation

[Lanuven]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol, this is unbelievable. How many free mobs does T2 need to be content?

I dont think anyone came and handed out loot to my knowledge.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol, this is unbelievable. How many free mobs does T2 need to be content?

Dolj got a free mob last night, with no loot to show for it.

What do you mean by "free?"

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by Aaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you mean by "free?"

I mean mobs handed to guilds that can't or won't compete. If a lot of the guilds were not satisfied with the recent rulings, it is probably due to the lack of free mobs being tossed their way. Does T2 need all of the mobs outside of VP to be happy?

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean mobs handed to guilds that can't or won't compete. If a lot of the guilds were not satisfied with the recent rulings, it is probably due to the lack of free mobs being tossed their way. Does T2 need all of the mobs outside of VP to be happy?

I feel like AG competed yesterday. Dolj beat us to our first target and wiped. Then raced us to our second target.

Was that not competition? Felt like it to me.

[Yinaltin]

lots of time was wasted on vp entrance yesterday, as on the plane entrance [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] should have cleaned your house or did the laundry

[JayN]

well at least tier got free loots yesterday before de-pop'd grats on your loots

[Visual]

any plan that involves 10 raid mobs per month for a peak 1000 pop server is *fart noise*

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Visual [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

any plan that involves 10 raid mobs per month for a peak 1000 pop server is *fart noise*

That's why I thought the 3-4 simulated repops a month plan was great. Extra content for a content-starved server.

Still haven't heard one reason why it's bad besides "we don't agree to it."

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[sanluen]

The main issue was not how well the new raid rules treated Tier 2.

The issue was that the plans that were being discussed were vastly different from this one, then there was a 20 minute break for dinner, and all of the sudden these rules were established - which to most of us came form left field, and were nothing like hte plans we were talking about.

To be fair, this enacted ruleset was more fair to casual guilds than many other proposals, but it was really frustrating to take part in many hours of discussion and debate and proposal generation and discussion to have it all thrown away and a new, completely un-discussed plan be put into effect.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by sanluen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The main issue was not how well the new raid rules treated Tier 2.

The issue was that the plans that were being discussed were vastly different from this one, then there was a 20 minute break for dinner, and all of the sudden these rules were established - which to most of us came form left field, and were nothing like hte plans we were talking about.

To be fair, this enacted ruleset was more fair to casual guilds than many other proposals, but it was really frustrating to take part in many hours of discussion and debate and proposal generation and discussion to have it all thrown away and a new, completely un-discussed plan be put into effect.

So, if there was a new meeting tomorrow and everyone got to talk about this deal, hypothetically you may just agree to it and end all this?