Another Raid Idea: 50/50, No Tiers

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just think rationalizing losing World Spawn Bosses because of VP access is absurd. VP is overrated.

in the ploktor/loraen plan exactly the same number of world spawn bosses are FFA as before (more really, without extended variance) PLUS you get to be in a rotation and get more AND you get more PDs because by the time BDA can kill Hoshkar Velious will be out. ALL of T1 should be jumping on how much they love that plan because it doesn't require them to give up SHIT.

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in the ploktor/loraen plan exactly the same number of world spawn bosses are FFA as before (more really, without extended variance) PLUS you get to be in a rotation and get more AND you get more PDs because by the time BDA can kill Hoshkar Velious will be out. ALL of T1 should be jumping on how much they love that plan because it doesn't require them to give up SHIT.

Thats the thing. They're used to getting ALL the pizza. Doesn't matter if you convince mom to order a second pizza, they want all of the first pizza and all of the second pizza. The only thing they'll concede is to let you have half the breadsticks if a second pizza gets ordered.

Then they'll tell you what a great deal you got because before you used to get nothing.

[Handull]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats the thing. They're used to getting ALL the pizza. Doesn't matter if you convince mom to order a second pizza, they want all of the first pizza and all of the second pizza. The only thing they'll concede is to let you have half the breadsticks if a second pizza gets ordered.

Then they'll tell you what a great deal you got because before you used to get nothing.

You say "they" like this wasn't my idea and I'm not fe


Vp is a bonus, you lose nothing by going into vp

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Handull [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You say "they" like this wasn't my idea and I'm not fe


Vp is a bonus, you lose nothing by going into vp

I was quoting Splorf who was responding to Clark who is FE and a vocal supporter of 'At worst we should lose nothing, so long as noone else gets as much as we get'

[Handull]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was quoting Splorf who was responding to Clark who is FE and a vocal supporter of 'At worst we should lose nothing, so long as noone else gets as much as we get'

i know. my comment isn't so much directed at you, but more trying to show that some people on each side of the fence are trying, even if it seems like the loudest voices are being negative. cheers

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Lot to read so I'll throw in my own points here.

There are about 11 guilds total. Split the mobs 50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50.

Problem solved.

[baalzy]

We're talking 50% to maybe 20% of the server (tier1) and 50% to the rest of the server.


Hell they don't even want 33 + the opportunity at another 33 for the 20% and a guaranteed 33% to the rest of the server.

Here:
http://p1999pop.dmsimard.com/db/Guilds

TMO 2.31%
FE 1.57%
IB 1.09%
Total = 4.97%

BDA 4.05%
Taken 2.15%
Europa 2.03%
Divinity 1.85%
AG 1.81%
A-Team .88%
Total = 12.77%

So we're really talking about 5% of the server thinking they deserve at least twice as many mobs as nearly 13% of the server (not even counting guilds like Indignation, Rapture or Ni). (Sirken dictated plan)

Hell most of these people are arguing that the 13% don't even deserve 30% of the mobs (Rog plan).

[Handull]

Aside from the uncertainty I have over the connection between number of toons tagged by a guild and number of players in that guild, don't try to argue that tmo/fe/ib are the only guilds killing boss mobs under the current pre-ban system. if I had my way and variance was reduced, or if loraen's modified plan went in with ffa repops, the 5% would be getting an appropriate share. i know what plenty of people from fe have said (which is why you posted what you posted), but i'm saying that its okay to share. fe members shouting "we want over 50%" are delusional to think we were getting that many kills over tmo in the first place. p99, they just wana have fun.