Thinking about coming back to level another toon - Need twink help to motivate me.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

iksar obvious choice.

Gnome superior race.

[Byrjun]

Iksar has the following problems:

* KOS to everything
* Missing alchemy vendor
* Worst starting stats
* No slam
* No stun immunity
* Can't use a bunch of equip, most importantly JBB and JBBP (for clickies that are useful all the way through Velious)

Definitely the weakest racial choice for a shaman, but Iksar do look cool.

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But this is an argument/debate that has been going on since Y2K. So I don't really expect it to be solved or change here. I just listed WIS/Mana gear because it is generally cheaper and more effective for grouping at lower levels (since you won't canni or tank).

I think the debate was over about 13 years ago when most people realized that focusing on HP gear made you a lot stronger and more flexible.

Originally Posted by Zeonick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So not true. You dont need a fungi and melee items to play a shaman.

No one needs a fungi. But it's BIS for a shaman until Vindi BP in Velious. Shaman has the most expensive spell in the game, Torpor. Besides that, even your junk spells that you'll never cast cost 5k+. All the HP gear that you'll most likely want to use generally costs much more than wisdom gear, and then you have stuff like JBB at around 40k. Shaman is pretty expensive for a caster, again mainly because of Torpor which is essentially required at 60 and costs 100k+ I think about now, if you can even find it for sale.

[Nocsucow]

if you are going iksar you need to go sit in karnors for about a day and get you full jarsath for free most items are good for shaman the guants are one of the best you can get and legs are bye far the best

[Pan]

If I were starting a shaman (of any race), regen BP (whatever I could afford) would be my first purchase and then I'd stack as many HPs as I could with what I had left. That's enough to get you started w/o major frustration...the rest of the gear will show up when it does.

[Zeonick]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksar has the following problems:

* KOS to everything
* Missing alchemy vendor
* Worst starting stats
* No slam
* No stun immunity
* Can't use a bunch of equip, most importantly JBB and JBBP (for clickies that are useful all the way through Velious)

Definitely the weakest racial choice for a shaman, but Iksar do look cool.



I think the debate was over about 13 years ago when most people realized that focusing on HP gear made you a lot stronger and more flexible.



No one needs a fungi. But it's BIS for a shaman until Vindi BP in Velious. Shaman has the most expensive spell in the game, Torpor. Besides that, even your junk spells that you'll never cast cost 5k+. All the HP gear that you'll most likely want to use generally costs much more than wisdom gear, and then you have stuff like JBB at around 40k. Shaman is pretty expensive for a caster, again mainly because of Torpor which is essentially required at 60 and costs 100k+ I think about now, if you can even find it for sale.

Yeah if you get all that equip and every spell you may or may not need it will be expensive. But just gwt decent gear and an epic and instantly you're force to be reckoned with. All the other stuff will come in time, spell farming, seb groups, you dont neeed it to be a good shaman, that's all I'm saying.

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by Pan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I were starting a shaman (of any race), regen BP (whatever I could afford) would be my first purchase and then I'd stack as many HPs as I could with what I had left. That's enough to get you started w/o major frustration...the rest of the gear will show up when it does.

Simple yet solid advice.

[Gustoo]

Also be an ogre.

[doraf]

Make a necro or something. Something that doesn't need raid gear and the epic is too shitty to care about.

[oldhead]

Well, talk about demotivating. Logged into my Monk and my tstaff was gone. That is what I was gonna sell off to start over on a shaman. Put most of my eggs (plat) in that basket last time I played.

It's weird. Nothing else was gone. My char wasnt stripped at all. Still have 4 tink bags on him and some semi decent monk gear. Either someone log on him and just grabbed the staff or some bug ate it.

Checked my EC mule to make sure I didnt give to him to sell. Nope. Just like I remember him. Had some pocket change plat from selling my SK twink gear and some nick nacks

Check my other characters... nothing. Very strange. Fuck.

Can't imagine petitioning about something like this will bring any results.

[oldhead]

Just checked my logs. I indeed had it last time I logged off in Dreadlands. I was beating a drolvarg in the head with it.

Logged on today and my monk was in East Commons. Still had everything but the tstaff... even had the oynx that my log shows I picked up off the dead Drolvarg.

My account got hax0rd and they only took the staff sometime between...

[Tue Aug 14 21:26:17 2012] It will take about 5 more seconds to prepare your camp.
and
[Sat Jan 11 23:37:09 2014] You have entered East Commonlands.