Class R and Poopsocks

[drktmplr12]

Disclaimer: I do not care about this Inny dispute, and this thread isn't here to discuss it. Goto RnF if you want to talk about it.

Recently, Derub has posted an amendment of sorts to raid policy:

We are moving to a system where raid disputes are player adjudicated and resolved. If there is a dispute involving two or more parties in which a rule has been broken, bringing that dispute to the GM's is a last resort, after all other options have been explored. We greatly encourage players involved in disputes to work with each other to find their own solutions to situations that arise during raids, and reaching a compromise that will almost always be preferable to GM intervention. Obviously this is not a new notion by any means - but from here on out it will be the regular procedure for handling a dispute, as opposed to the exception.

In the past, the go-to solution for a raid dispute was to put in a petition and let the staff decide what to do. We feel there are few, if any, situations that cannot be resolved through cooperation and compromise. If a dispute needs to be brought to a GM, it is very likely both sides will walk away unhappy with the result. It is therefore in all parties best interest to work together to come to their own resolution.

This change will largely affect Class C guilds, as Class R guilds have their own prearranged agreement as to how Class R spawns should be handled that is conducive to an environment that produces fewer disputes. This system, however, is not class exclusive, and if one or more groups are involved in a dispute, we expect the situation to be handled in a similar fashion regardless of class affiliation.

From this point forward we expect players to exhaust every possible option to reach an agreement during a dispute before involving the staff. We do not believe this to be an unreasonable request, as everyone here has the knowledge, capacity, and understanding to be able to work out these problems on their own.

We are confident this will provide less staff intervention, more cooperation between competing guilds, and an overall better raid scene for everyone. We look forward to an exciting and fun year of raiding across Antonica, Kunark, and Velious!

Let me explain my thoughts:

1. It's against raid policy to poopsock merb spawns.
2. Class R has player arranged agreements.
3. Suppose AG is up for draco according to the Class R agreement.
4. Suppose draco is in window.

Could it be considered OKAY to have a raid force clearing trash in fear while waiting for him to pop?

This is assuming all eligible parties decline to make a complaint about said rule to the CSR. In other words, the players came to an agreement that they do not care to get CSR involved because it really makes no difference for Class R to wait around outside a zone or near the spawn point. It just seems stupid to me that we can't be in the zone and are forced to poopsock instead of at least clearing trash and hoping he pops while we are there.

AS far as I know, there are 0 guilds outside of Class C and Class R capable of doing anything meaningful with regards to raid mobs. That's why I bring this up. I think this is EXACTLY the type of thing that the CSR wants to see: Players resolving potential disputes.

Thanks for reading~