are all the veterans this toxic here?

[orran]

Originally Posted by Tassador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Calm down it's not that serious. Op being a baby staff can't allow the crying to keep implementing rules. L2pvp or go to a new zone. If you leave the zone and set 60 Druid and twink follow you send harassing tells that's another game.

I could care less about what people say to me in tells what im concerned about is being able to play the game

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by orran [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could care less about what people say to me in tells what im concerned about is being able to play the game

Orran it isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. FoH is a small guild and a lot of their members don't even level. With a 4 level range you can quickly out level them and be out of range.

They are as Red of a guild as you can get on our server. They will fight you no matter what, whether it is even odds or not. They are also relentless. You pretty much just have to avoid them in situations like last night where they have a 50+ druid support. They aren't too worried about it being fair.

Don't get too discouraged though, the majority of the server is on your side on this issue and most 50+ wouldn't be wasting their time on this. It is rare that this happens but it does happen.

[freez]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Orran it isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. FoH is a small guild and a lot of their members don't even level. With a 4 level range you can quickly out level them and be out of range.

They are as Red of a guild as you can get on our server. They will fight you no matter what, whether it is even odds or not. They are also relentless. You pretty much just have to avoid them in situations like last night where they have a 50+ druid support. They aren't too worried about it being fair.

Don't get too discouraged though, the majority of the server is on your side on this issue and most 50+ wouldn't be wasting their time on this. It is rare that this happens but it does happen.

dont forget they will run at first sign of an even fight

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope GMs read this thread and aggressively suspend / ban players that are doing this

Lol.... You srs? Pvp happened and OOR healers are classic as he'll.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sheriff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol.... You srs? Pvp happened and OOR healers are classic as he'll.

100% Serious. This can basically be compared to overfishing / overhunting / overfarming etc. If you guys all grief everyone off with overly aggressive pvp be it with super twinks, OOR healers, SK HT bots, all you are doing is ensuring these young antelope will never grow up to produce more antelope. You're keeping the pop artificially down and therefore ultimately creating less pvp to be had. Someone who is griefed @ say level 15 in Unrest is much more likely to say fuck this server and quit than someone who is already in his 50's and has built friendships and invested a significant amount of time into his toon. The true PVP'ers here should be bending over backwards to help the new players if they really cared about a vibrant PVP scene @ the end game.

And for all the "well they can just call LNS!", how many people @ level 15 in Unrest, who may not have even been able to secure a bind nearby, are really going to care enough to do so after getting destroyed by fungi twinks and 60 druids when they can just /camp and log on to blue again? There's no other motivation behind this behavior other than to destroy the pop of this server. That type of behavior needs to be punished.

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

100% Serious. This can basically be compared to overfishing / overhunting / overfarming etc. If you guys all grief everyone off with overly aggressive pvp be it with super twinks, OOR healers, SK HT bots, all you are doing is ensuring these young antelope will never grow up to produce more antelope. You're keeping the pop artificially down and therefore ultimately creating less pvp to be had. Someone who is griefed @ say level 15 in Unrest is much more likely to say fuck this server and quit than someone who is already in his 50's and has built friendships and invested a significant amount of time into his toon. The true PVP'ers here should be bending over backwards to help the new players if they really cared about a vibrant PVP scene @ the end game.

And for all the "well they can just call LNS!", how many people @ level 15 in Unrest, who may not have even been able to secure a bind nearby, are really going to care enough to do so after getting destroyed by fungi twinks and 60 druids when they can just /camp and log on to blue again? There's no other motivation behind this behavior other than to destroy the pop of this server. That type of behavior needs to be punished.

Then let's make some twinked level 20 something epic rogues and ebon maced SK to regulate. Counter pvp twink the pvp twinks. Call the guild regulators and you can be Nate Dogg!

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Sheriff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol.... You srs? Pvp happened and OOR healers are classic as he'll.

PNP isn't classic though but we have it here. Killing people while being immune because you have a healer 30+ levels above buffing/healing is griefing. And frankly I don't care much if there is a rule against it or not, it's douchebag behavior. I think Willan said it best in TS the other night when we have a few members depart the guild over such activities - if PVP is hunting, this is the equivalent of chaining a deer to a post and then shooting it from 5 feet away.

If that is your idea of fun I hope the GMs make it so you can't play here anymore whether it's a rule defined explicitly in the PNP or not.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Killing people while being immune because you have a healer 30+ levels above buffing/healing is griefing. And frankly I don't care much if there is a rule against it or not, it's douchebag behavior.

PvP is exhilarating and fun. What happened here is griefing. That group had no realistic chance against the lvl 60. Its just dumb.

[Makwa]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PvP is exhilarating and fun. What happened here is griefing. That group had no realistic chance against the lvl 60. Its just dumb.

PvE is exhilarating and fun. What happens though is neckbearding. My group of friends has no realistic chance of getting our epics done unless we buy them off neckbeards or play 5-7 days a week and join a zerg/top-end guild. Its just dumb.

[Tassador]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PvP is exhilarating and fun. What happened here is griefing. That group had no realistic chance against the lvl 60. Its just dumb.

dude you never won a fight against oor heals?