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Old 05-07-2014, 05:12 PM
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Does WINE have a directx wrapper? When I was using it, for any type of acceptable performance I had to use OpenGL and most games are designed with one or the other in mind, not both.
Wine has a thin layer that simply maps direct3d calls directly to do their openGL equivalents. A number of other libraries are used to port the entire directx framework (OIS for input I think, etc).

I will say that some rendering/game engines that do optimize for directx a lot better and that is where you may see some framerate benefit, but generally the benefit of using *nix over windows (way less resource intensive) makes the difference a matter of subjective opinion.

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osx distro cause i'm civilized and like my printers to work
props to apple for making CUPS. I think pretty much any distro can install it tho

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There are an insane number of problems with using Wine with modern games. When I was doing work to get PhysX up and running on a linux system, I came across no shortage of people upset that they spent $60 on a game they couldn't really use because of a problem with Wine or their particular distro. If you need a computer to just do a few simple tasks reliably, Linux is the way to go. Otherwise, it's way more hassle than its worth.
Linus Torvalds' opinion of Nvidia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g

To "do a few simple tasks reliably" is funny when you consider Linux and BSD dominate 99% of the supercomputer market share (top 10 all using Linux), simply because Windows cannot do simple tasks let alone complex ones reliably
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:40 PM
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Supercomputers use Linux because they need reliability over usability.

And what's up with Linux fans and their idolatry of everything Linus Torvalds has ever said? It's disturbing.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:48 PM
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Actually I don't agree with everything Linus says. I think it's stupid that he very openly and wrongly bashes C++ for compatibility concerns, yet hodgepodged platform-specific assembly code that could have easily just been C everywhere in the kernel for no real reason.

I linked that video because it was pertinent to your physx problem: he says Nvidia is the worst manufacturers to work with when getting drivers on Linux. He also noted that now they're trying to get into the android market, making them super douchey.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:08 PM
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I didn't bash Linux for having shoddy PhysX support, since it's not totally their fault and anyone who has dealt with Nvidia development support knows how much they suck. I only mentioned that I had worked with it because that's when I was in the shadowy underworld of gaming forums with the corpses of games that don't work on Linux strewn about on every other thread. This was all to make the point that your "Wine plays pretty much every game without much hassle" theory is pretty obviously false to anyone who has ever ventured into the realm of gaming on Linux.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:19 PM
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I would not have made the same statement 3 years ago. ps there are native GPU drivers for physx for Linux, written by nvidia themselves
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Old 05-07-2014, 10:32 PM
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osx distro cause i'm civilized and like my printers to work
Printers? This is 2014.
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Old 05-07-2014, 10:34 PM
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I have seriously thought about pulling the trigger ona linux build for awhile. Then I fight our zimbra server for about an hour and decide not to.
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