Hey Xasten, alarti, portsche...old friends

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're not exposed to it. Boards were moved (alot of the drama contained on old board), members were insulted/ignored, people disbanded, people quit, All of it's already happened. The new guild might be working out nicely for you. I'm sure theres some nice people. I mean, I leveled with Sloan, I consider him a friend and we talked the first week he formed FE on how TMO operated raid-wise. I talked to him frequently when you formed to try to help you guys succeed. I harbor no hate for FE. I do harbor hate for this new leadership who thought they could push people around, force things on others and take no slack for it.

Just out of curiosity. Why is it that you and this "old tmo" faction were against the merge? Wasn't it the smart move? I'd be fucking happy if my guild went from struggling one week, to absorbing half the competition and crushing everyone a week later.

Before the merge, when FE was still deciding what to do, I was asked which guild I'd rather join. And I said IB. I wanted to beat TMO while I was in FE. It's the only reason I played, tracked, responded to batphones or did anything. I put it behind me the moment my guild decided to merge with them, because it was never personal, it was just competition. I can't even fathom how you guys could be so upset with the prospect of getting a huge influx of motivated raiders, while dealing a huge blow to your competition at the same time. Was it personal? Did you hate us for taking mobs from you? Did TMO need to be some exclusive club, even if it meant dying right before Velious? I'm genuinely interested in understanding your mindset. How were we different from any other app except that we came over in bulk?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just out of curiosity. Why is it that you and this "old tmo" faction were against the merge? Wasn't it the smart move? I'd be fucking happy if my guild went from struggling one week, to absorbing half the competition and crushing everyone a week later.

TMO wants competition... to join them.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How were we different from any other app except that we came over in bulk?

Self-respect, I guess?

[Imslap]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just out of curiosity. Why is it that you and this "old tmo" faction were against the merge? Wasn't it the smart move? I'd be fucking happy if my guild went from struggling one week, to absorbing half the competition and crushing everyone a week later.

Before the merge, when FE was still deciding what to do, I was asked which guild I'd rather join. And I said IB. I wanted to beat TMO while I was in FE. It's the only reason I played, tracked, responded to batphones or did anything. I put it behind me the moment my guild decided to merge with them, because it was never personal, it was just competition. I can't even fathom how you guys could be so upset with the prospect of getting a huge influx of motivated raiders, while dealing a huge blow to your competition at the same time. Was it personal? Did you hate us for taking mobs from you? Did TMO need to be some exclusive club, even if it meant dying right before Velious? I'm genuinely interested in understanding your mindset. How were we different from any other app except that we came over in bulk?

There were probably about 8-12 people who were actually against the merger straight up. A lot were skeptical, but most were willing to see how it would play out. The most vocal dissenters were nonfactors and AFK trackers and people with less than 10% attendance. Hence what Alarti's post that I quoted is about.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Self-respect, I guess?

Is that what you think?

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that what you think?

That we sacrificed a great deal of self-respect to take on a zerg of people who absolutely hated us the month before, because it was the "smart move" to keep the guild going? No. I don't think that at all.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That we sacrificed a great deal of self-respect to take on a zerg of people who absolutely hated us the month before, because it was the "smart move" to keep the guild going? No. I don't think that at all.

Okay. The context of that quote makes it seem like we lacked self respect for joining you. I won't argue someone else's point of view. Carry on.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That we sacrificed a great deal of self-respect to take on a zerg of people who absolutely hated us the month before, because it was the "smart move" to keep the guild going? No. I don't think that at all.

I wasn't a part of you guys hating each other. I do think there was some of that on both sides those. It was actually nice seeing people let go of grudges to make the right choice for the members of both guilds.

[Rellapse40]

After reading Alarti's dating profile a couple years ago

i can 100% confirm

he is gay

[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wasn't a part of you guys hating each other. I do think there was some of that on both sides those. It was actually nice seeing people let go of grudges to make the right choice for the members of both guilds.

I still think it's just FE trying to win the fight from the inside.