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DeruIsLove · #21 06-29-2014, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, birth control certainly isn't since it prevents you from getting pregnant in the first place. The morning after pill is a different beast all together though.

Only if you are making an appeal to ignorance. Implantation of the Zygote (note not a fetus, won't be for two months) takes place 10 days after fertilization, the morning after pill prevents the Zygote from implanting in the first place. It's by definition not an abortion.

Estolcles · #22 06-29-2014, 07:32 PM

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The Senate is part of Congress. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point is that all 3 branches of Gov't are to blame for this hell our country is in right now.

Glenzig · #23 06-29-2014, 07:33 PM

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Only if you are making an appeal to ignorance. Implantation of the Zygote (note not a fetus, won't be for two months) takes place 10 days after fertilization, the morning after pill prevents the Zygote from implanting in the first place. It's by definition not an abortion.

Well first off, I didn't say it was an abortion. That doesn't mean that it isn't a termination of a pregnancy. Just because it can't be legally defined as an abortion doesn't mean its above reproach. After all, if you weren't desperate to end the only known result of a fertilized egg, then why would you take it?

DeruIsLove · #24 06-29-2014, 07:38 PM

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My point is that all 3 branches of Gov't are to blame for this hell our country is in right now.

Oh you meant the supreme court then?

Estolcles · #25 06-29-2014, 07:43 PM

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Oh you meant the supreme court then?

Yeah.

I haven't toked up in 3 weeks. My brain has been failing me lately. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DeruIsLove · #26 06-29-2014, 07:44 PM

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Well first off, I didn't say it was an abortion. That doesn't mean that it isn't a termination of a pregnancy. Just because it can't be legally defined as an abortion doesn't mean its above reproach. After all, if you weren't desperate to end the only known result of a fertilized egg, then why would you take it?

Desperation implies as well as assumes a lot. Just like to point out that you might want to rephrase things if you ever encounter a rape survivor.

Also pregnancy can result in many things including but not limited to miscarriage and death of the host. A full term fetus is not the "Only known result of a fertilized egg". You are once again trying to excuse ignorance.

DeruIsLove · #27 06-29-2014, 07:45 PM

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Yeah.

I haven't toked up in 3 weeks. My brain has been failing me lately. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

K. Wasn't trying to poke fun, just making sure we're on the same page. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dragonsblood1987 · #28 06-29-2014, 07:50 PM

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Cause it's not about religion, so there is no hypocrisy; just outright deception.

This might be new to you but, religious freedom is a 1st amendment issue and highly protected; so lawyers working for Hobby Lobby in an attempt to stop the Government from sucking out their profits via healthcare mandates utilized the freedom of religion clause in the Constitutional to essentially duck responsibility.

If I were a CEO and I was worth $6M annually, I'd use everything in my legal arsenal to keep profits high and the IRS from raping my yachts and mansions.

tl;dr

corporate fat-cats use religion to ignore insurance mandates.

Its funny because jesus was a communist according to the mythology.

Glenzig · #29 06-29-2014, 07:54 PM

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Desperation implies as well as assumes a lot. Just like to point out that you might want to rephrase things if you ever encounter a rape survivor.

Also pregnancy can result in many things including but not limited to miscarriage and death of the host. A full term fetus is not the "Only known result of a fertilized egg". You are once again trying to excuse ignorance.

Killing the baby doesn't turn back time and unrape the victim. Why create a second victim of the crime?

Sure pregnancies can go wrong and end in miscarriage, or in extreme circumstances, death of the mother, death of the baby, or both. How does that change the fact that a fertilized egg will result in a pregnancy?

Dragonsblood1987 · #30 06-29-2014, 07:55 PM

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My point is that all 3 branches of Gov't are to blame for this hell our country is in right now.

Indeed. its all due to capitalism, too. everyones fucking everyone for the sake of a few more dollars on top of their millions, and theyve basically taken the wheel by giving themselves absolute power. we need a good government reboot. just turn all current politicians, lawyers, and justices into fertilizer to grow food, and become something like a communist/socialist country with a very heavy dose of nationalism.

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