Duo with a Monk - which class

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Kender [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 issues with that...

1) fungi tunic was a kunark item i thought (old seb)
2) even when it's available it was pretty rare so either it's a big camp or alot of money.

2 issues with that

1. iksar monks dont premier til Kunark and this thread was in regard to them.
2. Do you have any concept of the amount of horded wealth on this server & the extreme amount of poopsocking to farm these items?

[Kender]

Originally Posted by Shabaza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My girlie wants to play a monk and I wanna assist her on her way.

Wich of these classes / Dru / Enc / Shm would fit best playing with her on the longer run?

Maybe another class than these 3 would fit far better?

What do you think?

Originally Posted by Azeth

2 issues with that

1. iksar monks dont premier til Kunark and this thread was in regard to them.
2. Do you have any concept of the amount of horded wealth on this server & the extreme amount of poopsocking to farm these items?

1. nowhere in the original post does it mention anything at all about iksars
2. i'm sure there is which makes it all the more difficult for a regular player to obtain such items

[Iceyhot]

/shrug to each there own. I also played the monk / shaman combo. I won't discredit either.. each one has there own strengths.

I will say, find me a camp in classic or kunark with multiple mobs and I will break it faster as a bard then I can as a monk. I'll also say that without puma line buffs which this server won't see, a shaman's downtime with a monk class (without a mind buff) is significant. Especially if you want your shaman to be doing damage too.

Yes the slow is better, the buffs are slightly better. You can't stop runners without root, you have no spell interrupt (offchance a monk will do it), your travel time is 3-4X's more. The regen is 10 during combat and 20+ outside of it.

In an outside zone, I'd rather play a bard / monk combo any day. Camps are a cinch, there is virtually no death risk, the dps is comparable (at the loss of huge downtime for your shaman) or better. HP's aren't so incredibly out of control presently that even a warrior couldn't be full hp by the time a shaman could after slowing, dpsing, and maintaining buffs.

In an inside zone.. Shamans have an advantage, but bard / monk is still doable as long as you don't bite off more then you can chew.

Easy to play? Shaman / Monk no doubt. Harder to play, but equally capable to level up just as fast? Bard / Monk.

Each one has its strengths.

[Noleafclover]

Anyone mention bind wound + canni = sex? True story.

[Loke]

Come Kunark, I would agree that shaman is the best choice assuming it is 60 and has Torpor. Right now, I would say clerics and druids both compliment monks just as well as shamans.

[purist]

What level exactly are you all claiming this duo really takes off? No way is it a viable duo at every level bracket.

[garyogburn]

The reason shamans and monks go so well together is synergy. No, druids and clerics dont work as well as shamans, ever. Theres no downtime due to canni and regen. Monk single pulls. Shaman buffs/heals. Monk BWs shaman when he gets low from canni. It just works.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Iceyhot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/shrug to each there own. I also played the monk / shaman combo. I won't discredit either.. each one has there own strengths.

I will say, find me a camp in classic or kunark with multiple mobs and I will break it faster as a bard then I can as a monk. I'll also say that without puma line buffs which this server won't see, a shaman's downtime with a monk class (without a mind buff) is significant. Especially if you want your shaman to be doing damage too.

Yes the slow is better, the buffs are slightly better. You can't stop runners without root, you have no spell interrupt (offchance a monk will do it), your travel time is 3-4X's more. The regen is 10 during combat and 20+ outside of it.

In an outside zone, I'd rather play a bard / monk combo any day. Camps are a cinch, there is virtually no death risk, the dps is comparable (at the loss of huge downtime for your shaman) or better. HP's aren't so incredibly out of control presently that even a warrior couldn't be full hp by the time a shaman could after slowing, dpsing, and maintaining buffs.

In an inside zone.. Shamans have an advantage, but bard / monk is still doable as long as you don't bite off more then you can chew.

Easy to play? Shaman / Monk no doubt. Harder to play, but equally capable to level up just as fast? Bard / Monk.

Each one has its strengths.

In my experience, Bard / Monk is very efficient but woefully lacking in the healz department. I'm not sure what your battle plan would be either - would the Bard tank? Or would the Bard draw lots of aggro and do some kiting trick? What advantage does this have for the Bard, who could just aoe kite if they wanted?

edit: my last question still applies, but I didn't realize you'd answered everything else in another post, so disregard that

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Noselacri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Absolutely shaman. Shaman+monk is the iconic duo combination, and they complement eachother extremely well. This is by far the most effective and powerful all-purpose 2-man combo in the game.

The bolded part is false.

Enchanter/Cleric can literally do everything the monk/shaman combo can do, and more. The enchanter/cleric combo will do things the shaman/monk combo would get facestomped on with no lube.

[Tork]

For classic, monk+druid (thorns, root, travel) is roughly on par with monk+shaman (slow, regen, canni).

Either combination would be fun for both players, and would be able to level up on a wide range of content.