WTB Manastone (65k)

[JayDee]

Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raising price to 75k due to recent drops =)

Exactly

Anyone saying manastone will go down in value is dumb. The combination of the fact it doesn't drop anymore, a lot of people quit meaning manastones will become more rare, and also the fact it will be essential for all druids and ESPECIALLY wizards.

I'd say it will probably be over 300k by velious

Laugh now but don't be surprised if it actually dwarfs that number [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[finalgrunt]

On the long run it will raise. On the short term, price could lower a bit.

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[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you cant use it in Kunark how does its value increase? The whole bind/port thing is a pita. I remember the bottom dropping out of them right as Kunark launched on live. Why would things be all that different here?

I don't know what server you played on, but within the first 3 months of Kunark on my server, manastone's price jumped 250%. They were going for 50-75k before release, and 150-200k within 3 months of the start of Kunark.

And the bind/port thing is not a pita. You have a druid take a cleric team to GFay and they all gate back FM 2 minutes later. Wizards can port out, eat up manastone hits on their epic's rune, and gate back FM. Any group/raid with a porter and a healer can get any and all casters they want to FM in a matter of about 2 minutes with a manastone.

The item just becomes more and more useful as mana pools grow. It's literally an invaluable item. A cleric with a manastone can run himself OOM at the beginning of a raid encounter, get ported out, manastone to full, gate back, and be FM again for the same encounter. Wizards are insanely OP'd burst DPS with epic/manastone. Druids are the most obvious users. It's just a game-changer. If you're a caster, and more specifically a cleric, wizard, or druid, it's literally the most valuable item in the game for you. And it's still highly useful for other casters. And that completely ignores the toy, status-symbol aspect of the item.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the long run it will raise. On the short term, price could lower a bit.

Yep, I think that's about right. Not sure if it will lower, but I don't think it will rise significantly any time soon. But in the long-run, it'll skyrocket relative to all other items. Manastone is the only item in the game now that will increase in value when Kunark is released, and it will be one of the only items -- if not the only item -- from Kunark that will increase in value come Velious. Just about every item in game has a downward sloping value curve from the time of its introduction. Manastone is the opposite.

[finalgrunt]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep, I think that's about right. Not sure if it will lower, but I don't think it will rise significantly any time soon. But in the long-run, it'll skyrocket relative to all other items. Manastone is the only item in the game now that will increase in value when Kunark is released, and it will be one of the only items -- if not the only item -- from Kunark that will increase in value come Velious. Just about every item in game has a downward sloping value curve from the time of its introduction. Manastone is the opposite.

There is a difference with Live though. Many accounts have got many of them (to reuse an old player on this server: "everybody and their mums has got one"). As Kunark will come, many of those old accounts will be reactivated. And I bet many manastones will be on the market to buy those many new shiny items available.

[finalgrunt]

Manastone bought. Thanks for keeping this thread alive with interesting discussions.

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[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Noleafclover [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can make a lot of money if you can predict what will happen in the future correctly 51% of the time.

I can't obviously predict correctly, but I'm willing to bet that manastones will drop in a way obviously related to kunark by 10 or more k.

And we both know you won't take me up on that.

How much would you like to wager? I saw a WTB in East Commons today for 80K for at least two hours. Here is my bet: the price will continue to climb and it will be 10K or more higher than it is by the time Kunark release. I further stipulate that the price will be at least another 10K higher 60 days after Kunark's release than the price at release.

I've done a little bit of research about this. Somewhere between 250 and 400 legitimate manastones dropped on this server. That's not enough for even half of the population at prime time. Some people have more than one. Many people who had manastones have quit or been banned.

Anyone who lacks the cleverness to realize that the item is still amazing after Kunark and for the life of this server will learn from the people who are clever. If there is a significant price drop after the Kunark release, it will be brief and most of the manastones sold during that time will not be resold later.

If someone is duplicating manastones, they are being so careful about selling them that it doesn't appear to be affecting the market at all.

Manastone is possibly the most rare and valuable item for the duration of this server. If I didn't already have mine, I would be trying to scrape together 75K.

[Toony]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've done a little bit of research about this. Somewhere between 250 and 400 legitimate manastones dropped on this server.

Just out of curiosity how'd you determine that number?