Unguilded / Other-guilded Toons Past the Zoneline when Mob in Window, Thoughts

[Fael]

I don't see why a third guild couldn't step up and raid. Lots of targets to be had. BDA is large. Taken is large. Jesus, Chardok has produced 1,000s of level 60s in the last year alone. Its not like there is a great dearth of 60 clerics and warriors. Thats all you need to kill a lot of quality stuff.

Dolic

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see why a third guild couldn't step up and raid. Lots of targets to be had. BDA is large. Taken is large. Jesus, Chardok has produced 1,000s of level 60s in the last year alone. Its not like there is a great dearth of 60 clerics and warriors. Thats all you need to kill a lot of quality stuff.

Dolic

jesus christ, why do I have to keep repeating this??

TMO and IB are throwbacks to a time where the raid scene was an absolute shit show. You guys would tear each others fucking throats out if it were still allowed. The guilds in class R do not want to play like that. The size of our guilds is IRRELEVANT. The amount of 60s we have is IRRELEVANT. The only thing that matters is that we don't want to sit and stare at a spawn point for 15+ hours. It's stupid. We shouldn't be restricted to inferior content because of that. The fact that 10 guilds would rather rotate 1/3rd of the mobs (minus VP) instead of dealing with you jackasses and all the forumquesting/petitionquesting/socialogical warfare you bring to the table should speak volumes.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see why a third guild couldn't step up and raid. Lots of targets to be had. BDA is large. Taken is large. Jesus, Chardok has produced 1,000s of level 60s in the last year alone. Its not like there is a great dearth of 60 clerics and warriors. Thats all you need to kill a lot of quality stuff.

Dolic

No one wants to raid like you guys. Think that has been made very clear over the years. Racing for targets isn't what a lot of people did back in classic and don't enjoy it. Sorry your too caught up in your own little world to realize that.

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see why a third guild couldn't step up and raid. Lots of targets to be had. BDA is large. Taken is large. Jesus, Chardok has produced 1,000s of level 60s in the last year alone. Its not like there is a great dearth of 60 clerics and warriors. Thats all you need to kill a lot of quality stuff.

Dolic

I don't think the roster size of the guild is necessarily indicative of their desire to raid in the same style that TMO/IB do. I'm sure there are only really a handful of people from each Class R guild that have the free time and pixel motivation to do so. If one of them decided to make the jump to Class C they would likely lose a decent portion of their membership. It's been said several times that we do not want to play the way you do. We have better things to do with our time.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think the roster size of the guild is necessarily indicative of their desire to raid in the same style that TMO/IB do. I'm sure there are only really a handful of people from each Class R guild that have the free time and pixel motivation to do so. If one of them decided to make the jump to Class C they would likely lose a decent portion of their membership. It's been said several times that we do not want to play the way you do. We have better things to do with our time.

We are deeply sorry and feel great pity for those of you who have nothing better to do with your time. Sucks to be you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[toosweet]

The guilds in class R do not want to play like that
Batphones a 2am FFA VS?

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by toosweet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The guilds in class R do not want to play like that
Batphones a 2am FFA VS?

BDA didn't show up until there were only 2~ hours in window or so, in fairness.

Whereas TMO, IB and Taken had been there for quite some time longer.

I don't think they have a problem showing up for 2 AM dragons... more a problem of sitting for no dragon for 15 hours. Which is what you must be willing to do to get any FFA target. Especially one like VS and Trak. Where you have a CotH mage and Bladestopper warrior or 2 CotH mages ready with groups pre-formed and prepared to engage for the entire 16 hour window.

[Daldaen]

If variance were removed or reduced it 30-60min +/-, you would see a lot more Class R guilds competing on FFA targets.

You want competition, push for the above change.

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If variance were removed or reduced it 30-60min +/-, you would see a lot more Class R guilds competing on FFA targets.

You want competition, push for the above change.

[arsenalpow]

I don't even think shaving the variance down to almost nothing would help. It's still a matter of dealing with crazy people. The CT experience in Fear is awful, trains in KC over VS are appalling. Inny in Hate is terrible. It's lie cheat steal kick scream until the mob is down.