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Old 12-08-2014, 09:01 AM
Daldaen Daldaen is offline
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Yea if that is happening then the game is rolling high numbers on JBoots/Lich, and when they cast Cancel Magic, it does eat off 4 counters from each of those (Lets say 6 and 8.. ending at 2 and 4), but your Arch Shield / DMF had low numbers of counters so they got eaten.

Counter amount should scale based on spell level IMO and be a static number. Clickies should always be deemed as "Level 1" spells and have a counter of 1. That way the insta-clicky junk buffness should function as is intended.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:22 PM
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I was killing stuff in hs last night and did think to myself, man he is chain casting that dispell. Could be just a coincidence but I did think it.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:41 PM
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it's like they know that dispel is way more detrimental than a resistable nuke
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:01 PM
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it's like they know that dispel is way more detrimental than a resistable nuke
A Sentient Bile did say, "hello world" right before I killed it.... But I just thought it was a glitch or something.. anyway right before it died to my final nuke it muttered, "please no" again, another bug I think. /shrug
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:07 PM
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buff stacking was classic. always had to have junkers at the top. dispell should not be removing stuff down the list first
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:47 PM
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In general -- not counting butt hurt aoe'ers or others who seek ez mode -- how do we feel about mobs actually being not stupid, and using dispells more?

Sky is a unique point of reference: aoe dispell, every pull, multiple times = one of the most classic pita of original eq.

That would be the extreme, but the other extreme is where dispell is a rare event.

It would be bad if they coded casters, so all they do is cast dispells. But, they *should* cast it and it should land fairly often. I just think it makes sense, especially post-50. Mobs should be smarter as our buffs get more powerful.
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:28 PM
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In general -- not counting butt hurt aoe'ers or others who seek ez mode -- how do we feel about mobs actually being not stupid, and using dispells more?
Shamans would love it. :P
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:12 AM
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In general -- not counting butt hurt aoe'ers or others who seek ez mode -- how do we feel about mobs actually being not stupid, and using dispells more?

Sky is a unique point of reference: aoe dispell, every pull, multiple times = one of the most classic pita of original eq.

That would be the extreme, but the other extreme is where dispell is a rare event.

It would be bad if they coded casters, so all they do is cast dispells. But, they *should* cast it and it should land fairly often. I just think it makes sense, especially post-50. Mobs should be smarter as our buffs get more powerful.
I am up for more of a challenge, and like strategy as most EQ players do. However every caster (and even some non casters? bug?) going ape shit and spamming a WIN button with dispell is about as enjoyable as the fact that all 'hard' raid mobs in EQ pull out their WIN button, which is AoE fear.

I'd like to leave that nonsense to raids only please!
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:54 AM
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I am up for more of a challenge, and like strategy as most EQ players do. However every caster (and even some non casters? bug?) going ape shit and spamming a WIN button with dispell is about as enjoyable as the fact that all 'hard' raid mobs in EQ pull out their WIN button, which is AoE fear.

I'd like to leave that nonsense to raids only please!
Yeah, put me down on the "dial it down" camp then. Dispells should be in the mob's rotation, that just makes sense. But if they are essentially spamming it, that is just a nerf in the other direction.

But as to casting random buff slots, that is maybe a trickier gameplay question. If it came down, from the dev side, to "always hit a random buff if dispell hits" to "always hit buffs in slot order" (as previous posters nicely explained) I would side with the latter.

I would argue that the ideal would be, a dispell has a *chance* to hit a random buff slot, but otherwise follows the slot order system, but that may be not something that can be put into the code.

edit: if a dispell makes its roll to dispell a random buff slot, we could use the term "crit dispell" perhaps. From what people are saying, it seems as if mobs are currently always criting their dispells.
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:27 PM
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The problem of this is that tey're not dispelling top slots, they're dispelling for example hero and symbol woch are in slot 5 and 6
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