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Old 09-20-2010, 03:07 PM
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Here is a list of every raid in EQ that needs a beastlord to win:

Here is a list of every group that needs a beastlord in it:

I could go on....

It was a worthless class then and is still a worthless class now. Putting them in P99 wouldn't change that, it would just create a headache for the devs to add a class that is worthless. Thankfully I am about 100% sure they will NOT be added to this server.

Ok - they had 1 spell on Live. 1 spell. Top guilds rarely carry more than 2 beastlords... actually 2 is pushing it.
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:28 PM
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Which spell are you referring to? I never played a beastie.
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:42 PM
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The MGB Spiritual _____ line of spells (Increase HP / Mana per tick) were nice to have during raids, but again, they were not needed.

That was my point, the Beastlord is a class that is never needed, it is only nice to have every so often at best. It was a bad idea to introduce it as a class and the class now still is frowned upon on Live when it comes to raiding.

It is a filler class for groups also, think about it, you never wanted a BL unless you knew them.
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:53 PM
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I'm pretty sure the Beastlord didn't even want to group with the Beastlord and vice-versa.
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:54 PM
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they were released when the cap was still 60.
erm no?
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:06 PM
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Let's not.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:21 PM
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erm no?
"Though Shadows of Luclin doesn't extend EverQuest's experience level cap past 60, it does allow for characters of 51st level or above to earn powerful, new abilities in place of experience levels." - taken from a review on gamespot 12/20/01

and as for them being not needed/desired in raids/groups, i don't see how that is a viable argument at all. why have rangers in that case other than "its classic".

im not demanding them, but saying i dont see what "headache" it'd cause to simply allow the class to be played for people who want to, long after velious is released ofc.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:01 PM
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and as for them being not needed/desired in raids/groups, i don't see how that is a viable argument at all. why have rangers in that case other than "its classic".

im not demanding them, but saying i dont see what "headache" it'd cause to simply allow the class to be played for people who want to, long after velious is released ofc.
But this is a classic server.

Rangers = classic
Beastlords = Not
P99 = classic

Not sure if I get your point. Rangers don't need special attention to add - granted I am not a programmer, but I assume a headache would be adding Beastlords to all the gear, quests, zones, etc. that are out there except for Vah Shir since they won't be available. Plus making quests for gear in zones they might not have them... I don't think Velious gear was added for Beastlords after Luclin came out, or PoSky - don't quote me on that but you know people would complain about not having quest gear.

There is a reason they aren't adding Luclin and anything else after, because it was the begining of the suck for EQ at that expansion, and everything else after was a little shittier until all that is left is the shitball that EQLive is today.

Topping everything off, the Beastlord class added no real value to EQ, at least zerkers are great DPS after mass AA's, but Beastlords just sit there and suck. The argument of adding them in cause it doesn't hurt is not really valid.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:19 PM
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yeah i agree with that point more, considering the headache of having to find all the beastlord quests/etc to add that were backadded into classic/kun/vel, probably a huuuuuge pita

i dont care if theyre added or not, just the other arguments people were making against it had nothing to stand on other than nouuuuuu itz not classic
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:24 PM
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The problem with beastlord, they were up with Luclin , that mean they have spells they would not had with velious max.
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