Serious question for GM's

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

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Sirks

What constitutes permanent exile from the realm? Ender rerolled 3-4 times on new characters and was banned each time he was revealed to be Ender. Is he permanently exiled from Emperor Rogean's land?

Also, what about people like Nizzar, Tune, Cast?

[harnold]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, the only logical explanation is that the GMs enjoy wasting their time moderating players. It couldn't possibly be because, even after years of running this server, they haven't been able to come up with a system that "doesn't require petitionquest" (and doesn't just result in a single guild dominating the server TMO-style).

It must just be that they are masochists.

off the top of my head i can come up with 3 raid systems that requires NO petitionquest

1-rotation - classic, was done on live on some servers, for those complaining about "then we'll have to wait even longer to gear up our 7th alts" should pipe down and keep quiet. This is easily the most fair of all the systems. Don't get it twisted- waking up at 5AM and loading into the server faster then other guilds is not "competing" by any means.

2-pvp - "BUT ITS NOT A PVP SERVER!" is the usual argument. Fair enough, but its another system that requires no petitionquest. This would be the most FUN of all the raid systems but could bring other side effects because basically the biggest zerg/most vp geared guilds would probably win. Either way, still fun and still no petitionquest, but the side effect of TMO rolling through everyone would ruin it so I do not endorse this unless it was implemented since day 1.

3-instance - You'll never believe this, but this was actually the method that sony and most other mmos use to fix the problem. Being that sony used this method it is automatically disqualified for p99 in the eyes of the gms. No trains and no petitionquest, but would require extra thought and work to figure out how to make it work with p99 (amount of spawns, how guilds can spawn them, etc.) However once the rules are thought of and implemented it is smooth sailing from there with no petitionquest.



Hell lets keep brainstorming and come up with another:

hardcoded raid rules - X guild engages, Y guild gets banished or something like that. The devs can hardcode literally any ideas they have that will prevent Y guild from engaging so there can be no sniping, etc. Will require thought to set up the initial rules but once thats done there is no more petitionquest.



There isnt any reason that this nonsensical, petitionquest-requiring, wake up at 5AM raid rules are here if the GMs didnt like the side effects. The current system is more flawed then any other mmo that has been in existance. It is not able to sustain itself without constant gm interference.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Milton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tourney fishing sounds pretty fun, havent done any derbys since I was a kid. Just been doin it outta tradition really, me and the pals every spring goin HARD for King Salmon. Fun fights and if the bite isn't on ya can always just jig for halibut or shoot some seal or otters. Love life in Alaska except for the internet =/

One of my Dad's good friends was a pro bass fisherman for many years. I had a chance to prefish a tournament with him and immediately knew I would never want to do it for a living. That shit is WORK man, takes all the fun out of it. I prefer to toss out a float and a sucker minnow and crack a beer with some music cranked up.

A wise man once said that many people fish their entire lives without realizing it was never fish they were after.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

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Sirks

It's really not possible for a small volunteer staff to permanently keep people out. It is up to the community to blacklist scum so they leave on their own. Unfortunately that seems to rarely if ever happen here.

Maybe if you started extending punishment for some of the more serious infractions to the guild leadership that shelter known douchebags the community would take care of itself.

Just my 2 cents.

[Milton]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A wise man once said that many people fish their entire lives without realizing it was never fish they were after.

Shit is deep son

[fred schnarf]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

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Sirks

lite has been boxing from the start, so you sir are a fucking joke

stop pretending you do anything here

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by fred schnarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lite has been boxing from the start, so you sir are a fucking joke

stop pretending you do anything here

remeber when Smedy took two weeks for boxing? most hilarious punishment ever given out

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by fred schnarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lite has been boxing from the start, so you sir are a fucking joke.stop pretending you do anything here

what i know and what i can prove are very different things. comments like yours are exactly why its so hard to find people to staff red. a lot of you nerds are under the impression that as staff we can just whatever we want on a whim. sadly thats just not the case. and if youd ban players without evidence, then red is really lucky not to have staff members like you on the team

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

remeber when Smedy took two weeks for boxing? most hilarious punishment ever given out

i very much doubt this. two boxers are given 30 days. i know some guides will do 15 if the person is honest about it. but i personally have been campaigning to the staff to make boxing into a first violation = permaban offense. furthermore, not all two boxing is created equally, meaning, some people are very lazy when it comes to boxing, and they are easier to catch. if you dont show up on our detector, then a guide would have to see a petition and have the time to run a manual 2 box test, as opposed to just going off the detector.


tldr - play better

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what i know and what i can prove are very different things. comments like yours are exactly why its so hard to find people to staff red. a lot of you nerds are under the impression that as staff we can just whatever we want on a whim. sadly thats just not the case. and if youd ban players without evidence, then red is really lucky not to have staff members like you on the team


i very much doubt this. two boxers are given 30 days. i know some guides will do 15 if the person is honest about it. but i personally have been campaigning to the staff to make boxing into a first violation = permaban offense. furthermore, not all two boxing is created equally, meaning, some people are very lazy when it comes to boxing, and they are easier to catch. if you dont show up on our detector, then a guide would have to see a petition and have the time to run a manual 2 box test, as opposed to just going off the detector.


tldr - play better

Does downloading a virtual machine and playing through a VPN equate to playing better?

[nonphixion]

Originally Posted by LoyalHurb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the key to understanding why, is to remember this is a free project. they could just do nothing.

they do something but there is no permanent fix to the problem... so the real solution is not wasting resources over a handful of retards -- which is the right choice and the choice taken here at p99

but u know this

also rest assured were it easier to make trolls lives harder, it will be done.

your a retard and a troll