A Question about the end of Class R Rotation

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the record the tier system was Sirken's addition.

No. It was yours. Your first version of the proposal, as posted in the Raid Discussion forum, includes a tiering system with Talendor and Gorenaire as gatekeepers. Sirken got in Vent with you guys after that post. Unless he was guiding you before that post occured.

Sirken's addition was changing the gatekeeper to Tier 2/3 I believe.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because it means guilds that want to compete on mobs can do so in the timespan of a Simpsons episode and then go on about their day. Allowing people with lives to partake if they know when the spawn is due.

Also it allows smaller (or any guilds but it specifically helps them) guilds to put out a notice that at time X the mob will spawn, be buffed and camped out beforehand. Players with only a single character can plan to arrive before and not lock their main character in limbo for 16-hours just so that they may have a shot at participating in a kill.

Chest - Please don't go full retard and claim Variance is a good idea. Or that it's removal wouldn't net some benefits, and those benefits outweigh the costs.

I don't like variance, but what I like even less is the current raidscene. Variance sucks, but I think it's the lesser evil compared to scheduled socking at an exact time.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. It was yours.

Sirken's addition was changing the gatekeeper to Tier 2/3 I believe.

Listen moron. You aren't an officer of your guild, you have 2nd and 3rd hand knowledge of the situation. I sat for hours hammering out these stupid fucking proposals so we could try and repair the gaps in the class R rotation. We never had a tier system planned out but once Sirken caught wind of the disharmony is class R he had a meeting with one of my officers and strongly recommended a tier system. Now believe whatever the fuck you want but I'm pretty much tired of all the rhetoric and hearsay. I'm telling you that a tiered system wasn't in our initial plan, but when the senior server GM strongly recommends something you fucking do it.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't like variance, but what I like even less is the current raidscene. Variance sucks, but I think it's the lesser evil compared to scheduled socking at an exact time.

Then I'm going to have to disagree with your opinion.

How is 6 guilds competing for a mob, with a maximum of 3 players in zone when the mob is due to spawn and none of those players allowed to FTE, all spending a maximum of 30 tracking/socking, a worse situation than:

3 guilds staring at a wall for 16-hours with 2+ full groups formed in zone, and the only way you can compete is to match their poopsocking.

The current system rewards neckbeardism. PLAYING the game should yield rewards. STARING AT A WALL should not.

Can you atleast agree with that statement? If you can you should find that variance is not the lesser evil.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Listen moron. You aren't an officer of your guild, you have 2nd and 3rd hand knowledge of the situation. I sat for hours hammering out these stupid fucking proposals so we could try and repair the gaps in the class R rotation. We never had a tier system planned out but once Sirken caught wind of the disharmony is class R he had a meeting with one of my officers and strongly recommended a tier system. Now believe whatever the fuck you want but I'm pretty much tired of all the rhetoric and hearsay. I'm telling you that a tiered system wasn't in our initial plan, but when the senior server GM strongly recommends something you fucking do it.

Sirken has recommended BDA go to Class C several times... Just saying Chest. And Taken for that matter. But still. The Towelie of GMs isn't infallible.

See my edit anyways.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken has recommended BDA go to Class C several times... Just saying Chest. And Taken for that matter. But still.

See my edit anyways.

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Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Listen moron. You aren't an officer of your guild, you have 2nd and 3rd hand knowledge of the situation. I sat for hours hammering out these stupid fucking proposals so we could try and repair the gaps in the class R rotation. We never had a tier system planned out but once Sirken caught wind of the disharmony is class R he had a meeting with one of my officers and strongly recommended a tier system. Now believe whatever the fuck you want but I'm pretty much tired of all the rhetoric and hearsay. I'm telling you that a tiered system wasn't in our initial plan, but when the senior server GM strongly recommends something you fucking do it.

You guys proposed a tiered system 6 months ago when GT/MC wanted to enter the rotation.

[Argh]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken has recommended BDA go to Class C several times... Just saying.

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[arsenalpow]

Sirken strongly recommending something for class R policy is wildly different than Sirken believing that you'd get a better pixel share as a guild in class C with repops or whatever terrible math he was using.

[Whirled]

OPs question is good. In before RnF tho