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Old 03-07-2015, 11:34 AM
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on red99, you could have just killed him 12 hours ago
or died trying.. right? and assuming within pvp lvl range too...right~?

Damn; red isnt the answer afterall. Whodathoughtit
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Old 03-07-2015, 11:35 AM
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This is such a silly conversation. The answer was directly posted. It is 100% a violation, and identical to the issue that we had a few months ago with Tranix crowns.

On any item camp, you get to camp your item one time. If you want to give it to a friend, corpse it, or keep it, it's up to you, but you are done with the camp.

With the AC, where the ring is a 100% drop, it's pretty clear. If AC spawns and he kills it, he has to cede it.
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:54 PM
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"Something else important to note about handing off camps - in particular, popular ones, but this applies to any camp that becomes contested. If you are solo camping, once you attain the item you were waiting for (an AC ring, for example) you are done camping that mob. The person coming to take the camp had better be prepared at this point in order to come eliminate the very next placeholder spawn in order to "stake his claim" on the mob. You cannot work wacky corpse lines on lore items in order to grab multiple items in the same "camp session" if there are others waiting to take the camp. Please be aware that we reserve the right to apply this same ruling to any camp if we deem it necessary, including camps with multiple players."

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Old 03-07-2015, 01:41 PM
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Yes, he was in violation; if it went down the way you described it Elcarim. Engage in conversation with players next time perhaps, and either log the data or take screens. Time stamped logs could be better if the player chooses to ignore you. And because no one should be afk who is up camping the mob or the ph, any non response would be a clear attempt of said party ignoring you, not just afk. Unless they are taking a quick bio break with an AFK tag.
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Old 03-07-2015, 01:58 PM
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Which AC camp was this? That also matters.

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Old 03-07-2015, 02:00 PM
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Which AC camp was this? That also matters.

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Most likely the OoT camp
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Old 03-07-2015, 02:10 PM
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Once the person popped the AC in OOT and killed it, their camp was done. It's their loss if they let someone else loot their item.

Note Drubael's comment: If you are solo camping, once you attain the item you were waiting for (an AC ring, for example) you are done camping that mob.


http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...19&postcount=9

Pretty clear-cut, and these exact rules have been around in one form or another for quite some time. I really need to compile a "Project 1999: Errata and other extraneous information" post to put all this stuff. For now, this will have to do:

Camp holder has the right to pass the camp to whoever he would like. However, and this is very important, two things must happen in order for this to be a legitimate hand-off:

1) The player being handed the camp must be present around the time the first placeholder spawns after the last holder of the camp has gotten his or her item in hand. The person handing off the camp must stay at the spawn until the next person in line arrives, if that person is on their way to take the camp. There is a little leeway here, and we refuse to set an exact timer on how long the placeholder can be up before the camp is forfeited, but in general it should never be for more than a couple minutes or so. We tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the person coming in to take the camp in these situations as CSR staff, so waiting a bit longer will never hurt. W

2) The person holding the camp cannot mislead you, or change his mind after telling you who is next. Something that no one ever does (and I will never understand why) is to specifically address the camp holder, asking who is next or if you can be next. The camp holder does need to reveal to you who the next intended camp holder is - if he doesn't, you may ask to be next and your claim will be valid unless he reveals the next person immediately. This person cannot change after the camp holder has "revealed" the next person to take the camp to you. It is an automatic forfeit if this occurs. If you ask to be the next camp holder and are told yes, the camp holder may not later retract or change this agreement and attempt to hand the camp off to someone else - it's yours once he has gotten his item or moved on from the camp.

Something else important to note about handing off camps - in particular, popular ones, but this applies to any camp that becomes contested. If you are solo camping, once you attain the item you were waiting for (an AC ring, for example) you are done camping that mob. The person coming to take the camp had better be prepared at this point in order to come eliminate the very next placeholder spawn in order to "stake his claim" on the mob. You cannot work wacky corpse lines on lore items in order to grab multiple items in the same "camp session" if there are others waiting to take the camp. Please be aware that we reserve the right to apply this same ruling to any camp if we deem it necessary, including camps with multiple players.
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Old 03-07-2015, 02:28 PM
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Moral of the story? You let him keep the camp for 11 hours longer than you should have.

I think.



Might be something about pie.
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Old 03-07-2015, 03:55 PM
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This is such a silly conversation. The answer was directly posted. It is 100% a violation, and identical to the issue that we had a few months ago with Tranix crowns.

On any item camp, you get to camp your item one time. If you want to give it to a friend, corpse it, or keep it, it's up to you, but you are done with the camp.

With the AC, where the ring is a 100% drop, it's pretty clear. If AC spawns and he kills it, he has to cede it.
This is absolutely correct. Once AC pops, the camp holder is done and must relinquish to someone present within a couple minutes of the next PH spawn, regardless of who looted the item.

That doesn't mean the next guy can't hand off to another one of his buddies, and so on and so forth, and disregard any sort of "list", but that's more of a douchebaggery thing and not a rule infraction thing.
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Old 03-07-2015, 03:58 PM
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I hope so. This is garbage. F this guy.
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