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Old 09-09-2015, 04:23 PM
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FYI, Comcast Business doesn't have a data cap.
Of course not, but that's why business's pay a lot more for internet services than residential. And, they, for the most part get the same bandwidth as residential.

Before you other people ask, you are paying for consistent up time. If something goes down, the business gets priority over all else.
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Old 09-09-2015, 04:37 PM
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Lol, really u people don't see how government involvement operate. Here's how it goes down Shitty politician A meets with shitty Lobbyist B, who's being paid by shitty company C. Shitty Lobbyist B promises kickbacks to shitty politician A and Shitty conpany C gets huge overpriced government contract and u the shitty voter D gets insane tax hike, and shitty Internet service. Yes we've been doin this for decades in other industries. And that's why we're in SHIT
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Old 09-09-2015, 04:52 PM
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I use 250-400 a month. i am affected by this [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-09-2015, 04:54 PM
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Lol, really u people don't see how government involvement operate. Here's how it goes down Shitty politician A meets with shitty Lobbyist B, who's being paid by shitty company C. Shitty Lobbyist B promises kickbacks to shitty politician A and Shitty conpany C gets huge overpriced government contract and u the shitty voter D gets insane tax hike, and shitty Internet service. Yes we've been doin this for decades in other industries. And that's why we're in SHIT
How do you think our cable/fiber infrastructure was built? The kindness of ATT/Comcast/Verizon's hearts because they wanted to provide a good product for a competitive price?

No, they all received (and still receive) massive tax breaks and kick backs for promised capabilities and roll out without going through with most of it and did not return any of the tax payer money they took.

Now that it is in place and thanks to state and local municipality deals (i.e. monopolies), the cable/internet companies can prevent other companies from using the tax payer funded lines to offer competing services.
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:05 PM
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How do you think our cable/fiber infrastructure was built? The kindness of ATT/Comcast/Verizon's hearts because they wanted to provide a good product for a competitive price?

No, they all received (and still receive) massive tax breaks and kick backs for promised capabilities and roll out without going through with most of it and did not return any of the tax payer money they took.

Now that it is in place and thanks to state and local municipality deals (i.e. monopolies), the cable/internet companies can prevent other companies from using the tax payer funded lines to offer competing services.
I think I just pointed that out. The government is involved already and it's SHIT. Why would we want them to take anymore control?
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:08 PM
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You would have to be torrenting like mad or have netflix running in HD 24/7 to hit that cap I would imagine.
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:11 PM
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Lol, really u people don't see how government involvement operate. Here's how it goes down Shitty politician A meets with shitty Lobbyist B, who's being paid by shitty company C. Shitty Lobbyist B promises kickbacks to shitty politician A and Shitty conpany C gets huge overpriced government contract and u the shitty voter D gets insane tax hike, and shitty Internet service. Yes we've been doin this for decades in other industries. And that's why we're in SHIT
Don't forget shitty non tax payer E who also is a shitty voter D keeps voting for shitty politician A cause everyone loves free stuff
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:23 PM
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I think I just pointed that out. The government is involved already and it's SHIT. Why would we want them to take anymore control?
It read like you were talking about other industries rather than Internet/cable infrastructure. I expounded upon it as it relates to Internet/cable infrastructure in light of your prior misapprehension regarding Net Neutrality. You keep claiming "more government control" when that is not what Net Neutrality is as a concept.


If we go down your road and add no additional government involvement, we maintain the status quo, which as you say is already "shit".

A complete deregulation of cable/Internet service will never happen, so that is out. Might it work in theory had the government never been involved? Interesting theorycraft but not applicable to reality.

Less governmental involvement/regulation would leave more control to ATT/Verizon/Comcast, which are already providing "shit" service for comparably high prices. Do you think they would all of a sudden provide better service with less involvement? Where would you go? What competition is there?

Yes, in markets where Google is laying out its own infrastructure Comcast/Cox/ATT/Verizon magically lower their prices and double/triple/quadruple the available speeds and throughput of their users. But you are dealing with another massive corporation that persists because it sells off your personal information. This is only available to a minimal market, while most of the country is still locked into choosing from bad option A and worse option B.
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:27 PM
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Before we land in RnF, I thought i'd contribute to the original discussion ^^ 300gb is a hell of a lot of data. I remember back in the day though, my local broadband provider called me to complain that I'd exceeded 10gb of use in a month. At the time that apparently placed me near the upper end of their top 1% of users. They were like "what are you doing?" There wasn't anything about a limit in their terms of service at the time, but that was amended shortly thereafter ^^
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:41 PM
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It read like you were talking about other industries rather than Internet/cable infrastructure. I expounded upon it as it relates to Internet/cable infrastructure in light of your prior misapprehension regarding Net Neutrality. You keep claiming "more government control" when that is not what Net Neutrality is as a concept.


If we go down your road and add no additional government involvement, we maintain the status quo, which as you say is already "shit".

A complete deregulation of cable/Internet service will never happen, so that is out. Might it work in theory had the government never been involved? Interesting theorycraft but not applicable to reality.

Less governmental involvement/regulation would leave more control to ATT/Verizon/Comcast, which are already providing "shit" service for comparably high prices. Do you think they would all of a sudden provide better service with less involvement? Where would you go? What competition is there?

Yes, in markets where Google is laying out its own infrastructure Comcast/Cox/ATT/Verizon magically lower their prices and double/triple/quadruple the available speeds and throughput of their users. But you are dealing with another massive corporation that persists because it sells off your personal information. This is only available to a minimal market, while most of the country is still locked into choosing from bad option A and worse option B.
Your opinion on how Net Neutrality will play out in the future differs from mine. We keep running to government to fix problems and we end up getting more problems. If u don't like a product don't buy it. I hate Comcast btw would never buy there junk service.
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