Will Project 1999 Source Ever Be Released?

[Daywolf]

meh p99 didn't start out as an opensource db, so no worries at all. Now there was this other emu, a space game that shut down, and the emu devs ran the project opensource with no worries about others opening servers. Lots of people donated to the project considerably, and everyone played there.

But then there was a changing of the guard, a whole other set of devs took over the project, said oh no we cant allow that and closed the project code/db, started talking about making money off of premium content. See now that was screwed.

But p99 has always been a closed dev project, no tricks so to contribute to one day having your own server. Just enjoy the ride imo.

[immaterial]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It happens among a certain subset of programmers, yes. Some people believe deeply in open source. Those people generally open source it early and let everyone work on it.

This hasn't happened here. P99 has not been an open source project, and they keep the code. So it seems unlikely that they will do so any time soon.

well, i guess that's what i'm asking. currently P1999 is closed source, but is that because they are opposed to open source, or is it simply because they don't want to let the community split up into a dozen or so private versions? if it's the latter, then open sourcing it may very well be on the roadmap once they feel the server has run its course. i'm wondering if the devs have ever commented on it, or if a dev sees this, if they could give any insight into it.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by immaterial [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well, i guess that's what i'm asking. currently P1999 is closed source, but is that because they are opposed to open source, or is it simply because they don't want to let the community split up into a dozen or so private versions? if it's the latter, then open sourcing it may very well be on the roadmap once they feel the server has run its course. i'm wondering if the devs have ever commented on it, or if a dev sees this, if they could give any insight into it.

The devs have never mentioned they will open the source code.

[immaterial]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The devs have never mentioned they will open the source code.

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(unless we can get a dev or admin to comment! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

[Daywolf]

Well there already is a source. You gotta go to the main eqemu site and find it. It's just not the p99 db, but the emu in general where you gotta put your own work into it, or use the work of others that are available. It's not hard, it's just a whole lot of work if you want to change it from the platinum box style that it is. Find other like-minded people willing to work with you, you can split the work load. Yep, just checked, it's all up on github. The core server and also PEQ setup. You might find a hobby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Vaderman]

I would love for them to put out a private fully compiled zero source code p99 package. With limitations like not being able to be listed in the server list, capped at x people etc..

[Troxx]

The server is far from finished. There's a lot of folks not willing to neckbeard and poopsock who would and will gladly step to take down content when the raid scene is a little less toxic. The game as we know it stops at velious. Rampage has burnt out. Sooner or later the rest of 'hardcore' folks on the server will get tired of waking up at 2am when the bat phone rings.

When they burn out, content will still be there and some of the more casual raid guilds will get their chance to cut their teeth.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The devs have never mentioned they will open the source code.

why would they

[solutionx]

There's no reason to do it. You use "open source" like it's some kind of answer here. We have this one most populated server, p99, and you have a list of other custom EQEmu servers. These people also put hundreds if not thousands of hours into coding their own little worlds. Why would any of them release their source code and adopt an open source development paradigm? Specially in the case of p99, where they're doing just fine on their own developing the world, adding content, and fixing bugs.

I see more bad coming out of this than good if it ever happened, since I doubt any actual helpful or meaningful contributions would be made. And perhaps a split between the majority of the population, depending on what server they think is less nerfed or more "reasonable" or whatever the case may be.

Of course, they should already know this. No.

[immaterial]

Originally Posted by solutionx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's no reason to do it. You use "open source" like it's some kind of answer here. We have this one most populated server, p99, and you have a list of other custom EQEmu servers. These people also put hundreds if not thousands of hours into coding their own little worlds. Why would any of them release their source code and adopt an open source development paradigm? Specially in the case of p99, where they're doing just fine on their own developing the world, adding content, and fixing bugs.

it's not about "doing just fine", the P1999 team is doing great things. it's about sharing works and giving to a community. P1999 very likely wouldn't exist if PEQ weren't open source. many large projects go open source for a variety of reasons, from economical to philosophical. this isn't about the P1999 team owing anyone anything, or about open source somehow helping the team or making P1999 better; i am just asking if the P1999 team plans to go this route at some point in the foreseeable future, as many community projects do.