Tell me why Red sucks

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will 100% of the time take this "extra stress" since it means no queues, no rotations, no FTE-bullshit, no shamans poopsocking tranix for months on end, ...

Losing a small bit of plat and xp is meaningless when compared to the blue bullshit one avoids

Do note I did not understand this before I made the jump myself.

Doesnt Red only have one guild that monopolizes the server and if you dont get in, you dont raid?

That seems stressful to me.

[fan D]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesnt Red only have one guild that monopolizes the server and if you dont get in, you dont raid?

That seems stressful to me.

No.

There are 3-4 other guilds that raid and do planars.

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by fan D [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are 3-4 other guilds that raid and do planars.

Holy shit I never even once considered planar corpse runs with pvp on. That just send chills down my spine knowing that if the monopoly guild ever thought or tried it, they will not allow you to get your corpse back.

Thanks for another bullet point for tomorrows "Im so alone" thread

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesnt Red only have one guild that monopolizes the server and if you dont get in, you dont raid?

That seems stressful to me.

its impossible not to get in unless you already have a long history

beats blue really

Originally Posted by fan D [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No.

There are 3-4 other guilds that raid and do planars.

man u such a laugh

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its impossible not to get in unless you already have a long history

beats blue really

How is zero chance of getting loot on red unless you are in the inner circle less stressful..

Actually you are right, that is not stressful. But that does remove the carrot on the stick to play on Red, which is so much worse.

[coldslaw]

When the PVP general forum is more toxic than the Blue RnF, you're not really enticing people to give it a try.

Not to mention the red recruitment posts in almost every single thread which is annoying and a turn-off to wanting to associate more with individuals like that.

From a newer players perspective, red server a) appears toxic as fuck b) seems to ahve a declining population. Whats the point of investing time there?

[derpcake]

i can't invest time on a 150 pop server thats bleeding to death, that seems silly

that feeling where you are invested is gone for me, since the server is in a downward spiral population wise, further facilitated by the ban of x-server trades

along with the discord story and other recent events, the lack of updates and effort has me fearing for the entire p1999 project

could just be me

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think PvP in EQ is fun compared to PvP games that I already play.

this doesn't make sense

you like PVP, and you like EQ, but somehow you dislike EQ pvp?

I remember the first time I was in mistmoore, like 30ish people in the zone (server thriving), since our group didn't find a camp, we trashed the pond group and took theirs

1 hour later we did the same to GY

EQ pvp is fun and rewarding, not in R99's current state though

[brecon]

Red is worth a shot. It's funny how different the xp grind and item farming is from the Blue server. Some very popular camps on Blue are rarely occupied on Red, either due to the items stats being less useful on Red, or due to the difficulty to hold the camp due to PVP.

What's cool about Red is that at level 60, you still have lots of things left to accomplish for your toon. Even if you don't actively PVP (ie search it out), you can still be a target for PVP. There is a lot of worn gear, clickies, and consumables that can help you survive. You may raid because you want great gear that you can't get from solo or single grouping - but the gear serves a purpose besides simply killing the same dragon with slightly better stats next week. The gear makes you more robust in PVP, better able to defend your camp or deal with PVP that you encounter.

The blue equivalent, for me, is lvl 60 toons that do "solo artist challenges." That's a real reason to get certain gear, consumables, and clickies that the average blue player doesn't experience. On Red, you learn early on the value of pumices and how to stack your buffs, and how buff stacking works on other players and mobs. You start to really think about your encounters.

The bonus for those who enjoy PVE challenges (like me) is that the Red population is lower, so it is far easier to get access to those mobs to practice - solo, duo, whatever. My high 40s xp group took down tranix because he was just up and we were alone in the zone. The downside (if you can call it that) is that you can't recharge or use some of the clickies like puppet strings, bladestoppers, and soulfires which trivialize so many of the solo artist challenges.

[korilla]

I played on red. i had a lvl 60. at a certain point i had an epiphany that even after winning raid loot that there isn't a point because 1/2 the server is in one guild and the other 1/4 of the population is outside of my range.

[SamwiseRed]

Don't join zergs then.