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Old 02-28-2016, 06:48 PM
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I think the reason people stuck around through the longest Kunark timeframe ever was because there WAS Velious coming sometime. You had something to look forward to. Velious will not sustain the same amount of time, no way.
So places like Mistmoore shouldn't be packed with groups this time of day? Maybe I can jump in and solo the graveyard right now... haha yeah right [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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And peaks like 1400 now? And not multi-boxed like other emu servers. Most are in original zones.

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Kunark was the beginning of the end!

Seriously though, I'd love a vanilla EQ Proj!
I like Kunark, better than Velious actually, but I do agree and have mentioned it before, a retro server with just the old-world would be damn nice. I like retro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would have been nice if Kunark hadn't been a vertical progression but a horizontal one. Much easier to develop vertical progression though.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:21 PM
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So places like Mistmoore shouldn't be packed with groups this time of day? Maybe I can jump in and solo the graveyard right now... haha yeah right [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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And peaks like 1400 now? And not multi-boxed like other emu servers. Most are in original zones.

I like Kunark, better than Velious actually, but I do agree and have mentioned it before, a retro server with just the old-world would be damn nice. I like retro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would have been nice if Kunark hadn't been a vertical progression but a horizontal one. Much easier to develop vertical progression though.
... I'm not sure if literate? I said that Velious population won't last as long as Kunark. Your Mistmoore reference makes almost no sense to what I said. MM stays busy due to exp rate and ZEM, simple as that.

Again, it has 1400 population, which is awesome! But, as I said, it won't last as long as Kunark. Let me see if there's 1400 population while people are still grinding on Kael mobs with no hope for anything more in 3-4 years.
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Old 02-28-2016, 10:02 PM
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... I'm not sure if literate? I said that Velious population won't last as long as Kunark. Your Mistmoore reference makes almost no sense to what I said. MM stays busy due to exp rate and ZEM, simple as that.

Again, it has 1400 population, which is awesome! But, as I said, it won't last as long as Kunark. Let me see if there's 1400 population while people are still grinding on Kael mobs with no hope for anything more in 3-4 years.
Deductive reasoning, or top-down logic. Velious is irrelevant since most of the playerbase is in the old world, or a greater proportion anyway, still "lasting". As far as the general overall health of the server population is concerned anyway. There are still a lot of people in Kunark as well (as well as Vel and old world), hasn't died, years after release here. But that is the beauty of an openworld mmo, you just go to where you want to play, not forced into the next expansion or vertical progression zone, not as much here anyway.

But sure, for the hard core progressionist that gets board easy unless the next expansion is right around the corner, it may be curtains for them as the Velious novelty wears off to their liking. But that isn't what this server was crafted for, but for those that just like the pre-luclin gameplay, which this is the only server of it's kind more or less. Why do they all need to be progression into and thru luclin? Can't we just be left alone to our last scrap of insanity remaining?
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Old 02-25-2016, 03:21 PM
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t was and is, whether you think so or not. Was it game changing, yes and no, but no matter how you look at it, it was and still is a social interaction, even with very little to no words exchanged. (sad but true)
So your argument is that it -technically- is a social interaction? Lol. Fine, I'll stipulate. It is technically a social interaction; just as much as one as I have with a cab driver that drives me for 30 seconds.
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Old 02-25-2016, 07:52 PM
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It would be really nice if at some point the management here would reach out to the player community here and ask us our opinion on the future of P1999.

Just because Luclin had a lot of problems -- awful new character models -- doesn't mean that any future EQ expansions should not be considered.

I personally believe the spirit of classic EQ can be preserved with future expansions but with a piecemeal approach. Take the good parts of an expansion and leave out the bad parts.

At some point P1999 needs to convene a summit that includes representatives from playerbase and decide the future.

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Old 02-25-2016, 07:59 PM
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It would be really nice if at some point the management here would reach out to the player community here and ask us our opinion on the future of P1999.

Just because Luclin had a lot of problems -- awful new character models -- doesn't mean that any future EQ expansions should not be considered.

I personally believe the spirit of classic EQ can be preserved with future expansions but with a piecemeal approach. Take the good parts of an expansion and leave out the bad parts.

At some point P1999 needs to convene a summit that includes representatives from playerbase and decide the future.

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I personally believe that the spirit of classic EQ would be destroyed by cats on the moon. And thank goodness (from my perspective) that the devs have repeatedly stated they feel the same way. The "future" is now, and I rather like that we've reached the end of the line.

A lot of people believe that luclin/pop was the pinnacle of EQ. There are other emus to cater to them (TAKP, p2002). I don't understand why people think trying to nudge the devs into developing something they personally dislike is a good idea when there are other options available.
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Old 02-26-2016, 11:02 AM
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Take the good parts of an expansion and leave out the bad parts.
this is the part that almost everyone disagrees on. ask people here what they would leave or take from Luclin onwards and you'll get a hundred different answers.
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Old 02-26-2016, 02:30 PM
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It would be really nice if at some point the management here would reach out to the player community here and ask us our opinion on the future of P1999.
Issue being, aside from varying opinions, is that Sirken has stated on multiple occasions on his stream that development would be doing what it's doing whether 5 people played here or 5000.
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:35 PM
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It would be really nice if at some point the management here would reach out to the player community here and ask us our opinion on the future of P1999.

Just because Luclin had a lot of problems -- awful new character models -- doesn't mean that any future EQ expansions should not be considered.

I personally believe the spirit of classic EQ can be preserved with future expansions but with a piecemeal approach. Take the good parts of an expansion and leave out the bad parts.

At some point P1999 needs to convene a summit that includes representatives from playerbase and decide the future.

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You're just gonna have to accept the fact that there is an end to all of this. If you keep going, you're just turning it into a modern day MMO with new, unwated nostalgia-killing content flowing in to give the illusion of "progression".
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Old 02-25-2016, 08:21 PM
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So your argument is that it -technically- is a social interaction? Lol. Fine, I'll stipulate. It is technically a social interaction; just as much as one as I have with a cab driver that drives me for 30 seconds.
Yeah, that's why I think it can be a sad situation. Might not be eventful, but we're dependent on this aspect of the game, those books did not alleviate porters, but I felt it trivialized their need in that context. But I still enjoyed PoP nonetheless.
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