a few unofficial rules for ip exemption

[azeth]

If your story is true, this definitely is not against the rules.

[bman8810]

Having never posted here before and thus having an unbiased view, I would just like to say that most of you posting "obviously 2 boxing," or some variation of it, should try actually putting forth facts as to why it IS 2 boxing. Seems pretty clear to me that that is not 2 boxing... However, as my uncle always said, there are three sides to every story. His side, their side and the truth.

[Omnimorph]

Yeah, but unfortunately with this, it becomes a situation where people will 2 box, and when someone calls them on it, they can just get someone else in their house to play the other toon to prove they aren't 2 boxing.

It should be very simple, If you have an exemption, then it's in your interest to make sure it doesn't appear that you're boxing. Because anyone can get an exemption, 2 box until someone reports them, and say "err yeah, my wife was afk feeding the cat to the baby and knitting."

I'd like to think the gm's aren't just random canons running around and seeing 2 people from the same ip grouped with 1 person sitting still and the other killing and saying "2 BOXING!" *ban* and swooping away without observing or asking questions.

The most likely situation is that someone claims their "other player" was afk whilst they were killing, but every once in a while that other person shows up to toss them a heal or a DS or a buff of some sort... in which case, hey, that looks like 2 boxing and they should be banned. Now this could be a case where someone is playing with their wife, and she's doing other things and showing up to heal periodically... thing is... that's suspicious and if you have a legitimate reason for having an exemption you shouldn't be doing that.

[mitic]

Originally Posted by bman8810 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

However, as my uncle always said, there are three sides to every story. His side, their side and the truth.

this is best quote ive heard in the past year!

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Next time someone comes here with a half-told sob story that people buy into, they'll have a prime example of what kind of person is telling it.

Originally Posted by Uberom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most martyrs die for what they believe in. Case in point:

JFK
Jesus
MLK Jr.

And usually, they are opposed by the masses (in this case a brigade of level 30 Druid forum trolls) even though they are fighting for righteousness.

What is right is not always popular, what is popular is not always right.

Originally Posted by rioisk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought I would start a thread after what I experienced today so that anybody playing with an IP exemption could know the unofficial rules governing GM decision-making on this server so that nobody unwitting falls into the same situation as we did today. I realize this will be met with ridicule but nonetheless I think it's important for people to know the scoop so the tragedy doesn't happen to any other groups of people.

The most amusing part of these rage threads is how they always try to preface it with some pretense that they're doing really doing it to champion some righteous fight against injustice. Because, y'know, they'd never do it just to bawwwww.

The biggest tragedy is that this detail was left out:

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[Cyrius]

Originally Posted by rioisk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With a degree in CS

They give out degrees for Counterstrike now? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Teensy Weensy]

I'm glad you got banned. I was at that camp and saw you clearly two boxing. His "brother" was never there at all. He just had the guy sitting under the dock AFK for hours. The guy never moved.

[Tudana]

Originally Posted by Omnimorph [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It should be very simple, If you have an exemption, then it's in your interest to make sure it doesn't appear that you're boxing.

We have a winner!

GMS please amend the rules to IP expm to "no AFKing for longer then 10 mins."

This will help those that try to work around the 2boxing with the excuse of "he was afk....for 5 hours, but he was there danget!"

[Jaxon]

OP sounds reasonable, coherent, and argues his position logically and forcefully. Uthgaard can't come up with a good excuse to save his life. Judgment in favor of the accused.

[quellren]

Originally Posted by bman8810 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Having never posted here before and thus having an unbiased view, I would just like to say that most of you posting "obviously 2 boxing," or some variation of it, should try actually putting forth facts as to why it IS 2 boxing. Seems pretty clear to me that that is not 2 boxing... However, as my uncle always said, there are three sides to every story. His side, their side and the truth.

It's 2-boxing because 2 characters are logged in from ONE IP, one is actively killing for exp, and the other is sitting reaping the rewards without any contribution.
Were it 2 separate IPs, then it's just a lazy group memeber, or a Powerlevel.
Since it's ONE IP, it appear suspicious.

See here's the thing. Since you're so proud of being unbiased, be unbiased from the admin side:
You come across 2 people, one is sitting doing nothing, one is doing 100% of the work. After many minutes of observation pass, that one player still hasn't moved. A quick check reveals that BOTH CHARACTERS are being played from a single IP.
Looks exactly like boxing to me.