France Asserts Women's Right to Wear Clothes

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ur right, but u also don't have the hungry eyes and fingers of dozens of creepy savages touching your loved ones with enmity for their wanton driving them to temptation (remember, it's their fault for tempting them to rape by being uncovered).

Like everything you say is objectively true thru the lens of Western values, yet having dozens of people from a wacky sex cult in bondage gear on a beach where women are typically scantily clad is asking for trouble. This is more or less the reason mormons were driven into the wilderness back in the day. Certain bizarre domineering sex cults are just not compatible with open civilization when they are allowed to form parallel societies (individual units are much less dangerous).

I'll ask again, do you prefer rape for your daughter or a betrayal of Western values to protect yourself from the savages you were too weak to resist allowing within your borders? These, or God forbid, physical removal of immigrants who belong to cultures that are statistically more likely to be unable to assimilate (includes physical removal of people who do not deserve it), are your options.

This. The Burkini is downright fucking anti-social. I don't care if its associated with a religion. Its antisocial like wearing an open trench coat to the grocery store or market and letting your dick hang out. You are supposed to be clothed at a store, beach you are not clothed.

Those bikers are fucking retarded I'd kick sand straight into their face, I hope they are wearing goggles.

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It makes it uncomfortable for sex cultists to go to the beach and denies them the ability to contrast uncovered heathen women deserving of forced impregnation with good girls in bondage themed swimming gear. Keeps sickos out of a place where some degree of civility is required.

You're right about everything, and that direct aggression is the real solution. The problem is that you do not have the option in your so-called Western democracies.

You must let the savages in, that is not optional, but if the consequences bother you enough you may choose to erode the rights of every citizen to mitigate them. This is the meaning of "democracy" in the modern era's information matrix. There are traitors among us and there's only one fitting penalty.

You're right, nothing we can do - currently. Still, I don't see this as a worthwhile deterrent as all it will really do is strengthen their position as an "oppressed minority", resulting in more protection via our bleeding heart liberal parties both here and in France.

Honestly the best thing to do is wait until people get fed up, giving the savages no excuse to lash out and no cause for activism on their behalf. Eventually they will become so abhorrent in the eyes of normal people that the powers that be will be forced to act or die.

Targeted oppression will only serve to delay that outcome.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right, nothing we can do - currently. Still, I don't see this as a worthwhile deterrent as all it will really do is strengthen their position as an "oppressed minority", resulting in more protection via our bleeding heart liberal parties both here and in France.

Honestly the best thing to do is wait until people get fed up, giving the savages no excuse to lash out and no cause for activism on their behalf. Eventually they will become so abhorrent in the eyes of normal people that the powers that be will be forced to act or die.

Targeted oppression will only serve to delay that outcome.

I can agree with some of this.

The talk you were on earlier a page ago was borderline (((R Flair))) though I thought (((Jarnauga))) had gotten to you.

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. The Burkini is downright fucking anti-social. I don't care if its associated with a religion. Its antisocial like wearing an open trench coat to the grocery store or market and letting your dick hang out. You are supposed to be clothed at a store, beach you are not clothed.

Those bikers are fucking retarded I'd kick sand straight into their face, I hope they are wearing goggles.

Dude, you are on the wrong side of this. Who are you to decide what is sociable and where we must do it? I don't know about you, but i live in Murica where we aren't "supposed" to do anything anywhere we don't care to.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude, you are on the wrong side of this. Who are you to decide what is sociable and where we must do it? I don't know about you, but i live in Murica where we aren't "supposed" to do anything anywhere we don't care to.

Maybe you just aren't intimately familiar with the institution of beaches in general and aren't partial to care about it.

Yeah we're not supposed to, but you are talking about injecting dark ages culture into my beach and calling it enrichment. Doing whatever you want has limits under the constitution.

You cannot yell fire in a crowded theater. You cannot make written threats, and verbal threats are also becoming criminalized quickly.

Freedom of speech and expression has a history of only being acceptable in this country when its the norm, and jives with Western values. This is why you can't invoke freedom of speech and expression in all circumstances.

We had this tiff already over pornography in the 80's and early 90's with the John Stagliano criminal indictment. It took time to determine whether there was a legal basis for the case and what the definition of obscenity was. Until the burkini goes to the Supreme court, I'll stand my ground.

I maintain I am on the right side of this. I believe in limits.

[R Flair]

To what end though? Are we going to convince them of our supposed enlightened ideals of equality and freedom through legislation of beach apparel?

Just that you are trying to connect beachwear to public endangerment is a nutso argument. Think about that for just a second. Think about the importance of our basic liberties covered under the Bill of Rights compared to the insignificance of social norms regarding 21st century fashion.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really tough to argue that being fully covered is comparable to screaming fire. You could say lack of face visibility is a security risk, but fuck that I have the right to anonymity in public if I'm not being stopped for something.

Problem is you can't take the obvious correct course of action without betraying principles. Incompatible cultures.

Must limit intake such that assimilation occurs, regardless of how low that requires the rate to be.

What of the existing bans on masks and facial covering in most US cities? Im not aware of how that is being handled in the US.

Most major states/cities have a ban on face masks (including sentencing upgrades for crimes committed with a full ski-mask/face mask), and including laws the expressly ban the wearing of a full face mask/ski mask. This ban is circumvented by criminals seeking to avoid the "ski-mask" law by using a bandana around the lower half of the face, which prevents the sentencing upgrade from being applied as the language of the law in LA views a partial face covering as legal afaik.

Just an example of the complexities of "mask law" and was wondering if anyone knows if a full burka is even allowed in these states and cities?

[phacemeltar]

used to be the day that the general focus how not to starve, freeze to death, or will we be able to survive animal attacks... now the biggest concern is recreational beachwear... humanity is doomed

[fash]

Remove the people with the incompatible culture and 99.9% of the burkini problem goes away. Removing problem populations (or blocking immigration) isn't against western values nor US's past behavior. It's against modern egalitarianism values (modern, as in since 1965 Immigration Act for US, maybe a few decades earlier elsewhere).

[Lojik]

Clearly this opens the door for Muslims to create a sharia law state on one of France's beaches. I predict they will call the nation Burqini Faso.